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Or even to use this same example, why not blame the restaurant owner? They can choose to pay their waiters well and tell customers there’s no need for tipping.

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dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
This is the point that 50% of North Americans don’t understand. The restaurant owners have set the culture, and they exploit young people and customers alike. However, 50% of people think they’re entitled to eat out and therefore entitled to not tip, which only rewards the scummy restaurant owner for having exploitative business practices. Choosing to eat out and not tip makes tipping culture WORSE.

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Rediphile@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The idiot pro-tipping customers will still tip. They’ll try to sneak a tip and dumb shit like that. And I’m not about to blame a server for accepting free money.

But what price is fair? How is the owner supposed to just guess that?

I’d argue the wage that an employee voluntarily agrees to is about the fairest system possible: Make job posting, state the wage and job requirements, and people who find the wage fair then apply for it. I don’t see why this works fine in literally all other industries.

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- atyaz@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  There’s nothing wrong with tipping. It’s the required tipping that’s the problem. What’s fair is a fair salary. Waiters are paid like $2 an hour because the restaurant owners are allowed to take tips into consideration, which is what I’m arguing against.
  
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  - Rediphile@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Required tipping isn’t a thing. Tipping is, by definition, always optional.
    
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    Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Going to go ahead and guess you’ve never worked in a restaurant, because you don’t know what you’re talking about.
    
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