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Landsharkgun@midwest.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

ITT: people reallly pulling for a rapist.

I’m honestly with OP on this one. Rape is up there with torture and child abuse. You’ve gotta be a real scumbag to do it. It’s not something you get pressed into by circumstance, like e.g. stabbing someone in a bar fight. At some point, the right of everyone else to be free of threat outweighs one guy’s right to reintegrate with society.

OP, you live in the US, and you have 2nd Amendment rights. Start carrying to work.

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Donjuanme@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’m not "for"anyone here, but “carry a loaded weapon to work” sounds like the worst advice possible. I guess you could justify that workplace safety isn’t a thing, but that’s no reason to throw kerosene into a fire.

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- smotherlove@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Sure, it’s obvious how it sounds, but adults don’t make decisions about their safety based on vibes.
  
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  - Gabu@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    'muricans can’t really be considered adults – especially gun nuts.
    
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    smotherlove@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I don’t think people should bring guns to work either, but you kind of (intentionally, I assume) dodged my point entirely
    
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Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
You do not have a 2nd Amendment right at work. Your employer controls your ability to carry on their property.

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- Landsharkgun@midwest.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  “Not wanting to work with a multiple rapist is the same as slavery”
  
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  - Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Well no. That’s a radical simplification. I’m explaining how this impulse led to slavery back in the day. As a result, locking people up forever as a matter of course turns out to be a really bad idea.
    
    However this is exactly the level of discourse I’ve come to expect in regards to protecting society from conservative excess.
    
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derf82@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
You don’t answer the question about how this person can support themselves. They committed a horrible crime, but have served their time. It isn’t pulling for a rapist, it’s wanting to see someone rehabilitated.

People on one hand say they want to rehabilitate offenders. But when it comes to it, they want to permanently ostracize them, prevent them from working, and prevent them doing the daily tasks of living. You think they are a threat, wait until they are forced to live in the streets starving and see how they will lash out.

And are you seriously defending stabbing someone in a bar fight?

And, no, you don’t have the right to carry a gun on someone else’s property, including your employer’s.

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- Landsharkgun@midwest.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I can absolutely see how someone who gets into fights can be rehabilitated. You can work with anger management, threat responses, removal of triggers, avoiding people or areas that cause the behavior, etc.
  
  Rape? It’s an intentional, sadistic crime. I don’t really see how rehab would even work with a multiple rapist.
  
  wanting to see someone rehabilitated
  
  Tossing somebody on the street and hoping for the best isn’t rehab. Rehab involves active monitoring, behavioral modification, restrictions on liberties, etc. It also involves owning up to your crime to the community. If that makes life harder for the offender, that is their burden to bear.
  
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  - derf82@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I don’t see why rehabilitation wouldn’t work. It either works or doesn’t. And OP says nothing about being a multiple rapist. Sure, maybe some crimes like murder you forfeit the right to be rehabilitated, but that isn’t what has been charged here.
    
    And, sorry, violent crime can be every bit as intentional and sadistic as rape.
    
    And where is your evidence he was just tossed on the street? He no doubt is being monitored by a parole officer and may very be receiving behavioral modification therapy.
    
    And you are not merely making life “harder” you are making life impossible and pushing him to reoffend.
    
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- pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  They don’t because the answer is simple: YOU feed them, since you want to protect and defend rapists, and thus rape itself.
  
  Or just put them back into jail for life. They’re a rapist. They don’t belong here no matter how much you want them to be, and the fact this was even allowed to happen in the first place is a testament to how you have caused society to destroy itself by defending rape.
  
  Their inability to feed themselves is simply not our problem. They brought that onto themselves. We don’t have to let them into our communities and you can’t force us to.
  
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pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The fact that people on this platform are siding with the rapist is either evidence for bot activity or a sign the platform should be isolated and defederated from everyone else.

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