Comment on the agent's argument in the matrix

zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• cmeu@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I don’t know what human nature truly is, or if there can be a singular definition.

  However, judging by the historical record, we seem to be quite good at exploiting things and beings for our own benefit at their expense, which doesn’t really make a compelling case for worthiness

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  • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Worthiness begs the question of a judge of worthiness. The Agents may not have liked us as part of a balanced ecology, but they found us worthy batteries, for example. But they’re made up, as I’d argue most other external judges or values are. Even if a human is making that judgement, worthy of what and why? More worth than X? To who? Why is their judgement worthy?

    It’s a big can of worms and the deeper you go, the less clear it’s going to be. Maybe focus on a smaller bite for now.

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• cmeu@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Whom created capitalism, or any economic strategy?

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  • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Who. For nominative case, it’s who.

    I’m not sure what your point is, though. Are you suggesting that humans are destined to capitalism, in which case there is no choice and you can’t really put a moral judgement on it anymore than you can salt crystallizing. Or do you mean humans end up choosing capitalism, in which case can’t they choose something else and it’s not human nature after all?

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  • capital@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    …wikipedia.org/…/Don't_throw_the_baby_out_with_th…

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    • cmeu@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How does this Wikipedia argument address whether or not we’re a blight, or if we should be?

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      • HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        the baby is humanity, capitalism the bathwater.

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      • xmunk@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It raises the question on whether we’re a net positive (or, well, argues that we are). Humans do a lot of shitty things but on the whole it’s worth it.

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