Comment on Major western news outlets continue to manufacture consent for israel's Genocide
NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 11 months agoAsk Yemen how their right to self-defence has served them this past decade. The same can now be said for Palestine, and if Republicans get what they want, Ukraine, too.
Admittedly I'm not familiar with Yemen's situation, but the suggestion that Palestinians would be doing better if they rejected violent resistance is frankly ridiculous.
Sanctus@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Israelis would also have to reject violence. Its not that this is obtainable today, but this is the mindset we should be implanting in new generations of people. War should be taboo.
NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 11 months ago
I mean sure but then you're not saying much. "Both sides should settle things peacefully" I mean yes we'd all love that to happen but it's not possible today and the side being oppressed giving up on violence never goes well unless they have some non-violent way of gaining leverage.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Israelis are the only violent side refusing any semblance of peace. The West Bank is irrefutable evidence of this.
There is no “also”.
BarbecueCowboy@kbin.social 11 months ago
This is a hard line to tow, this is not a conflict with a 'good guy'.
The Hamas charter that they were founded on is publicly accessible, anyone can read it. It directly calls for Jihad as the only answer, and directly say that negotiation is not an option. There is also a line referencing that judgement will not come until the Jews are killed. Israel is doing bad things but don't let that lead you to the conclusion that Hamas is okay. It's really rough.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
None of the single violent resistances against apartheid and oppression ever had a “good guy”.
If you believe all those people that were willing to risk their lives to stand up against oppression in the past were super nice and educated about the whole situation you’re in for a big treat.
The IRA and the ANC are not the nice guys you think they were which only targeted military and politicians. And don’t google what the Haitians did during their rebellion against slavery.
Hamas is very much on the lower end of civilian casualty rates for a resistance group.
Sanctus@lemmy.world 11 months ago
There is an also, because they must, too, reject violence. The Israelis could have taken to the streets enraged as their leader failed to act on the information given to him about the Oct 7 attack. He chose violence instead, and those people, forgetting their previous emotions of hatred toward their leader, sixed with their government. They chose violence.
pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.world 11 months ago
No one is ever rejecting violence for any reason. And you’re immoral for demanding it.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Only israel must reject violence as the other side has always been open to peace.
Palestinians would not resort to violence if there was any other option.