Comment on Councils call for pavement parking to be banned across England

• MeepsTheBard@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “That’s your problem” is a terrible way to get people to support policy. These are real, valid concerns that many people simply can’t deal with without other systems in place that currently don’t exist.

  This type of “fuck any gradual change, revolution now” is just armchair anarchy pushed by kids who don’t face financial pressure.

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  • EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oh totally. I don’t have a car because I don’t have anywhere to park it, and can’t justify owning a personal vehicle when (bad) public transport and cycle paths are available.

    Because of this I find people who expect public space to be given to them, to the detriment of other people, to be selfish.

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    • tooclose104@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ya but your argument is also expecting public space to be given to you to the detriment of others. It’s a double edged sword.

      “Park on a different street” literally just shifts the problem.

      If a public parking lot was available then ya, totally feasible, but it’ll have to be big which then takes up the land from something else, again shifting the problem.

      You’re getting upitty with someone who is concerned that knee-jerk public policy is going to have large, likely unplanned, detrimental effects on the citizens outside of just themselves.

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      • EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        “Park on a different street” literally just shifts the problem.

        Actually I’m more going for “don’t have a car if you don’t have anywhere to put it”. I know it’s an unpopular opinion, but having a car is not a right and the sheer volume of them is to the detriment of the entire population.

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      • pearable@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Taking space used for cars and giving it to cyclist does actually make everyone’s life better, even drivers. You get less pollution, traffic, medical cost to the NHS, pedestrian deaths, and infrastructure costs.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So if I park on another street aren’t I just parking in someone else’s way? You’re just kicking the can down the road you’re not actually fixing the problem the fact that you don’t get that is insane

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      • EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Forcing people to park further away discourages them from purchasing a vehicle in the first place. Fewer cars is better for everyone.

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  • Swarfega@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    British streets were never built for the amount of cars we have today. I can see why parking half on/off is needed.

    I live in a new estate where homes either have two spaces on their driveway or a parking space. People still park fully on the path. To the point if you was in a wheelchair you couldn’t get by. People also don’t use their allocated parking space and park outside their house on the footpath.

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    • FatLegTed@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This. My ex has a separate garage with hardstanding in front of it 25m from her front door. The garage is full of shite and she parks in ‘her space’ outside her front door. She gets the arseache if someone else parks there as well.

      Thing is, there is a Tesco Express at the end of the road and delivery lorries have taken her driver side wing mirror about three times.

      Still has to park in her space though.

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