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This entire thread is just a bunch of old nerds screaming at the tide.

Hate stuff all you want. It isn’t going to change anything. “People should do this or that”. It must be exhausting to be so angry at something but do nothing about it.

Imagine using all this energy to really understand while people use Discord and try to make something better.

OR join these projects you apparently like and volunteer to do the extra work to publisher useful documentation. Unless of course you never intend to be useful to FLOSS and just want everyone else to do the work for you.

OR you can continue to complain and get nowhere while completely alienating an entire generation of developers. They’ll eventually forget you exist while they’re busy making the future happen.

I’m sure the folks that are doing the work aren’t hanging out on Lemmy complaining about kids these days.

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sanguine_artichoke@midwest.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Why are you posting this on Lemmy and not Discord?

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onlinepersona@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Why do you assume only “kids” use discord?

I’d understand your reaction if this were a defense of outdated bullshit that looked like it was invented in the previous century and looked the part like IRC, mailinglists, phpbb, usenet, … But matrix is from the 2010s. It has threads, video calls, voice channels, emojis, emoji reactions, and other stuff I don’t use. It’s evolving. There are many clients (web, mobile, desktop, CLI) for many OSes, etc. The only thing it doesn’t have is VC seed money and large amounts of marketing.

But that’s not the point. The point is opensource projects using closed source products that are controlled by a single, commercial entity.

OR join these projects you apparently like and volunteer to do the extra work to publisher useful documentation. Unless of course you never intend to be useful to FLOSS and just want everyone else to do the work for you.

That’s it: if they use discord these people (including me) won’t. “If you don’t use discord, you aren’t useful to opensource and want everyone else to do the work for you” is quite the take 😂

OR you can continue to complain and get nowhere while completely alienating an entire generation of developers. They’ll eventually forget you exist while they’re busy making the future happen.

L.O.L so the “previous generation” is just sitting around complaining? No work is ever done? The linux kernel is written by teenagers and 20 year olds, rust, PHP, javascript, W3C, firefox, conferences, etc. are all done by the next generation with absolutely no input from the previous generation (whatever that means)? At 40 people either drop dead or start shouting at clouds?

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Poik@pawb.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I love discord, for what it’s for. Quick synchronous talks you will never refer back to again. So not software development where indexable logs of information are necessary. I know discord has indexing, and now some form of forum. But every discord I’ve been to for development (especially modding communities) has a large corpus of synchronous logs where people get annoyed if you ask a question that was answered one before a long time ago with extremely common language making it nearly impossible to search for because the keywords have been used out of context of your question hundreds of times since the question was asked.

If the Dev communities used the forums mode in discord more, it wouldn’t always solve it, but it’d be much better. There are better places than discord for these things, but I have been trying to meet people where they’re established.

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phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Oh noes, people see something that isn’t right and they’re saying something about it! Let’s give no real arguments and just toss some half baked insults, im sure that’ll work

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technom@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Wow! You are so deluded, thinking of yourself as a cool new kid with cool new tech (Discord) fighting against old people. What you don’t get is that people are protesting the use of Discord for something it’s not suited to. There’s no generation gap in it. The best of the youngest developers I know have the same opinion. Perhaps it’s time for you to reflect on your own standing.

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rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’m an old nerd with 23?

They’ll eventually forget you exist while they’re busy making the future happen.

I highly doubt a bunch of discord kids are able to make anything happen.

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AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Ummmm you know youre on lemmy right? The whole point of lemmy is that some company doesnt own everything and thats why people dont want to use discord. Its kind of ironic to use discord for a foss project when you think about it.

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ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I don’t mind using discord, but I think it’s best to consolidate all project management communications on a single platform

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