Comment on Canada declares Flipper Zero public enemy No. 1 in car-theft crackdown

fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• billiam0202@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Politicians passing laws based on things they don’t understand?

  Quelle surprise.

  But also:

  a protection that’s been in place since the 1990s

  That’s not necessarily a guarantee, c.f. Hyundai and Kia’s lack of ignition locks.

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  • centof@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Politicians passing laws based on things they don’t understand?

    aka virtue signaling

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    • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Another way of saying that is moral grandstanding, which I kind of like better. I like the imagery of grandstanding, especially when describing politicians.

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  • baggins@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s not a thing in Canada. Our motor vehicle standards require immobilizers.

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    • billiam0202@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s because you all up there in America Lite hate capitalism, freedom, democracy, eagles, and baby Jesus.

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  • Chriswild@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The lack of arrestors is the issue there and the company should be liable.

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• Aatube@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Isn't it possible for someone who codes a code-roller onto the flipper zero app store?

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  • SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Probably possible but the thing would be running for hours or days to crack the code. That’s not really useful for a quick hack.

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  • EdibleFriend@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If so I’m sure someone can find this app and show its been done?

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• Player2@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  With a jammer it’s definitely possible to bypass rolling codes with Flipper, but it’s only temporary and has limited usefulness

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  • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That isn’t bypassing rolling codes, that’s capturing a single code while preventing it from reaching the car.

    And once the code is used once, or the fob gets a new code to the car, the previously captured code is useless.

    This isn’t the same thing as bypassing rolling codes.

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    • Player2@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Hmm, I don’t know the precise terminology, I meant bypass as a way to temporarily get around the rolling code system without actually breaking the code itself. You’re probably right though

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  • Takumidesh@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s pretty difficult, you need to get the rolling code from the fob, but you also need to jam it so it doesn’t reach the car.

    Then you have one opportunity to replay the code before the holder of the fob hits the button in range and rolls the code over.

    So even if you manage to set that up that only gets you in the car, it doesn’t get it started.

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    • Player2@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes correct, just pointing out that it is technically possible to get around the system

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