Comment on Canada declares Flipper Zero public enemy No. 1 in car-theft crackdown

n3m37h@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• sab@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  While this is seems a bit incompetent, it is easier for them to make technology less available than to fix the underlying issues here. They might set out to do both, but solving the underlying issues will take more time.

  At least they're trying to do the right thing, and they're making an effort to deal with a problem that affects real people. Good on them.

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  • scytale@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is like banning usb cables so Hyundai/Kia cars won’t be stolen, instead of forcing the car manufacturer to just install an actual immobilizer on affected vehicles. Seeing Hyundai/Kia do everything but install immobilizers is infuriating as well. They’re rolling out software updates, giving out wheel locks, installing cages on the ignition panel, etc. Literally everything but fix the problem.

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    • BossDj@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is like banning usb cables

      If USB cables were used almost exclusively for illegal and just generally anti social behavior.

      I’d never heard of this thing, and it does sound fun, but this was the use case list from the paragraph calling it a “humble hobbyist device” doesn’t come across as very defensible:

      People can use them to change the channels of a TV at a bar covertly, clone simple hotel key cards, read the RFID chip implanted in pets, open and close some garage doors, and, until Apple issued a patch, send iPhones into a never-ending DoS loop.

      But also agreed on fuck those car companies that just don’t care and would rather weaponize the government than try to fix anything (without a subscription fee of course). Anti social behavior forced Kia to change their shitty grift of a product so 🤷

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      • scytale@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        exclusively for illegal and just generally anti social behavior.

        Except they aren’t. These devices are used for various non-illegal purposes and are actually helpful for pentesters so we can learn about potential vulnerabilities on wireless systems before they can be exploited by bad actors. The same way a usb cable is useful for transferring data and at the same time can be used for illegal stuff (like literally any hack where you connect to a device via usb). The worst part (and the article mentions it), is that it doesn’t even work on security systems on cars built since the 90’s. So they’re banning something that isn’t even a problem in the first place.

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  • n3m37h@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It won’t stop theives from being able to obtain them. And it’s a legit tool, should we ban all usb because they can be used to steal Hyundai and Kia cars?

    It’s obvious there are flaws to car manufacturers theft protection. Shit watch LPL, lock noob, Bosnian Bill (hope you’re doing well brother) and you will see most locks are a fucking joke.

    There are Defcon vids on YouTube that go over how cars can be hacked yet manufacturers are still using these systems

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  • Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

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  • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This device is probably not what a professional car thief would use. It may be used sometimes by someone messing around, but it’s a tool made for an introduction into different types of penetration (testing). It doesn’t do anything as well as a more dedicated device would, and it’s also not as customizable.

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    • n3m37h@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      More like this

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  • n3m37h@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    More like hide the problem so no one knows about it. This is the entire locksmith ideology, security through obscurity and that has been working out great hasn’t it?

    I don’t have any faith in our incompetent government to do anything right if it costs corporations money.

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• Jaytreeman@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Pick an issue. Literally any issue. Canada isn't on the morally right side (with the exception of supporting Ukraine's war for freedom).
  People are fine. Landscape is amazing. Government at all levels needs to be gone. We'd be better off with actual criminal mobs running everything. They'd at least be competent

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  • IncogCyberspaceUser@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You should get those brain worms checked out

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• Toribor@corndog.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I figure half the purpose of these sorts of devices is to prove just how insecure certain systems are to bring about change. Governments rarely have a good grasp on this sort of thing though. It’s not like banning the device will make anyone more secure.

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• VampyreOfNazareth@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What does blackface Trudeau have to say on the matter I wonder.

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  • n3m37h@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Who gives a shit? He prob doesn’t know what it is or what it is used for either, and neither does his party apparently

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