Comment on The Verge - The fediverse, explained

• MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “Most of the fediverse” is like twitter. Users making posts to their own “microblogs”/profiles, following each other or browsing a timeline of all posts by everyone. That’s mastodon, and it has by far the most activity.

  Lemmy doesn’t support profile posts, and you can’t follow users, only communities.

  Basically, all posts on Lemmy are posts posted to groups, while all posts on Mastodon are users posting to their own profiles. While the networks are technically connected, the content type is not compatible.

  I hear mastodon is getting support for groups, though, which might be something that can be interoperable with lemmy communities. Then they could look at communities as if they were user groups, and post to them, and we could sub to mastodon user groups, and see their feeds as if they were communities.

  But until lemmy implements support for “user” posts and “user” following, we won’t see the massive amount of content of that type coming from mastodon.

  There’s already some funky interoperability that comes from the underlying structure of communities kind of being user accounts, where mastodon users can follow Lemmy communities, and post to communities by mentioning them. But it’s not pretty.

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  • ianovic69@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There’s already some funky interoperability… But it’s not pretty.

    I noticed a Masto post in my subscribed feed recently. It looked fine to me but I’m on Jerboa so I don’t know if that makes a difference?

    I’ve never understood why anyone wants to follow other people though. Things, hobbies etc? Yes. Individuals? No thank you.

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    • Die4Ever@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      the Mastodon user has to do an @ tag for the community in their toot, so if @community@instance.com is in their toot then it’ll show up on that community

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    • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah, that’s why Reddit was the only platform I ever got into. And now Lemmy.

      Obviously a post on Lemmy will look like a Lemmy post, but the interoperability is kinda cursed when you look into how it actually ends up working.

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      • ianovic69@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah did ten years on Reddit, nothing else but early FB which I deleted after the algo took over.

        They can post here then, I’m fine with that. If they can’t see my comments that’s fine as well. Lemmy is great, I don’t need more.

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    • IronKrill@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I happily follow users that make things. Artists, video producers, what have you. I don’t want to miss any of their work. That said, not having user profiles wasn’t a big deal on Reddit, you would just create a subreddit with your username and it worked fine.

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  • Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There’s already some funky interoperability that comes from the underlying structure of communities kind of being user accounts, where mastodon users can follow Lemmy communities, and post to communities by mentioning them. But it’s not pretty.

    If you put the mention at the top like Mastodon defaults it’ll look very messy on Lemmy because it will be trying to insert a MD link in the title field. If the mansion and hashtags are placed at the bottom of the post instead though, the post will appear fine on Lemmy.

    There are a few guides on how to create posts that are compliant, Basically it’s like this:

    [Title] separated by blank line [Body]

    [Hashtags (optional)

    [Community mention] *you can only mention one community and if you want the post to appear on Lemmy that Community should be the first mention. If you want to mention people on Mastodon their mentions must come after.

    Biggest drawbacks currently are:

    1. Title will be repeated in the body
    2. Issues mentioning people in addition to the community, also can’t post to multiple communities at once.

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• Contramuffin@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  To be clear, the Fediverse doesn’t mean that everything is interconnected. It means that everything can be interconnected, but most sites will only do a very minimal form of interconnectivity. And that’s mainly due to personal choice. You wouldn’t want to have Instagram posts on your Reddit feed, and you wouldn’t want Tumblr posts on YouTube. You can do that, but why would you?

  So most sites will only interconnect with other sites that they deem to be similar enough in content style. Lemmy interconnects with Kbin because both are Reddit clones. Kbin interconnects with Lemmy, but it also interconnects with Mastodon. Apparently the developer of Kbin thought that Mastodon is similar enough in content style that people would appreciate having Mastodon posts appear on Kbin. And this happens for all the other sites. The Fediverse is less like a tightly connected network, and more like a loose connection of sites that could operate together, if they ever chose to do so. Like a federation, if you will

  Basically, if you’re on Lemmy (which you are), you’re only going to see Reddit-like content

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• can@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You probably have seen posts in Lemmy communities from a mastadon user without realizing it.

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• originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  lemmy is incapable of the 'microblog' part of the fediverse of which mastodon only uses. . there are other server apps, like kbin that allow you access to both.

  i picked mbin precisely for this reason. plus it didnt look like someone forgot the css.

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• Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  From what I understand, there are different content types in activity pub. Lemmy forces on viewing community groups, Masto focuses on individuals. Lemmy would need to build support for following an individual.

  They underlying technology supports it, people just have to build a user experience for it, and that hasn’t been done yet.

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