Comment on Record waiting times for cancer treatment in the UK while King Charles begins treatment within days of diagnosis

Lmaydev@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• RobotToaster@mander.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “That’s the standard technique of privatization: defund, make sure things don’t work, people get angry, you hand it over to private capital.” — Noam Chomsky.

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  • Jho@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Just to add to this, there’s been quite a lot of public services which have been privatised in the UK by the Conservative party, for example water (1989), railways (1994 - 1997) and more recently the Royal Mail (2014). All of these services are in absolutely terrible states today, privatisation didn’t make them better. And yet it seems we are not learning from history and continue to vote in the Conservatives anyway. I do really worry about the future of the NHS.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Prioritization of public infrastructure never works anywhere ever.

      Who on earth thought it would be a good idea to try and make money out of the post office in the 21st century was clearly an idiot. Mostly all they deliver is letters from my bank telling me that I’ve already paid the credit card bill via direct debit. It doesn’t really need to happen, but it does anyway.

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• xhieron@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Indeed. As a Yank who always has to pay for healthcare anyway, it’s easy to see the parallels in labor/employment, civil rights, and financial security: We’re facing a global regressive movement from the political right, and those people have no scruples. They absolutely want to claw back every single gain the general public has made in rights and benefits over the last 75 years, and making benefits unpopular is the first step to privatizing them.

  Never forget the NHS, warts and all, is a thing that we Americans would die to have, and for want of it many of us too often literally do.

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  • Jaysyn@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    FYI, an anecdote for anyone in the UK that is leaning towards abolishing your NHS.

    I had an appendectomy last year, you know, a surgery that something like 40% of the population will need at some point in their lifetime.

    It cost me $7000, with "decent" insurance.

    The final bill pre-insurance was a smidge under $170.000.

    You guys need to burn the Tories down before do get the same.

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    • Pronell@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I work for UHC.

      I think they’re a decent company, considering the industry.

      I’ve made a nice and fairly comfortable career here.

      Burn it all down. Give everyone healthcare.

      I’ll find another job.

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      • IndiBrony@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        My girlfriend works for a private company instead of the NHS and she hates it on a moral level, too, but it’s impossible to work for the NHS and keep your sanity. Be it the working conditions, hours, or pay. It’s a shambles and it’s all because we - the stupid public - continue to be suckered into believing it’s good for us.

        Not to mention that the left is fractured. We all want progress, but can’t decide on exactly what progress should look like. Meanwhile conservatives only have 1 real option: Tories.

        I’m convinced at BEST we’re going to have another hung parliament with the bastards ultimately staying in power.

        This country is fucked.

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    • EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      An anecdote for anyone in the UK that is leaning towards abolishing or privatizing your NHS.

      Fortunately that’s a vanishingly small number of people in the UK, the NHS has almost universal support.

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      • Jaysyn@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That's good to hear. Now kick the Tories out & fund it properly.

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    • Asafum@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s so fucked up because not only are these assholes ruining another countries healthcare, they also are giving ammunition to our shithole country to never implement a universal healthcare system…

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      • EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Which assholes are you talking about?

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• feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The Conservatives did that. I don’t think Charles actually likes them much.

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• soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Does anyone care about major outcries in UK anymore? What do they ever achieve?

  People forget and move on after a couple weeks of anger

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  • andthenthreemore@startrek.website ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The Tories haven’t recovered in the polls since partygate and Truss, something has finally stuck.

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  • Lmaydev@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They still need to get elected to carry out their plans. Even the most zealous Tories I know are planning to vote against them this time.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It doesn’t matter how much money you have, if you’re a Tory voter you never think you have enough money. The fact you don’t have enough money is always the government’s fault mostly due to immigration either there’s too much of it, or not enough of it depending on your bank balance. Conservative voters only like the Tories come election time, the rest of the time they can’t stand them like the rest of us.

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      • Lmaydev@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        In my experience that isn’t true.

        They think the Tories are doing good and if they mess something up labour would definitely have messed it up worse.

        The ones I speak to genuinely support their policies even if they can’t name any when asked haha

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  • not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m still waiting for the follow-up on the Panama Papers.

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  • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t know what you mean people are still very hungry but we’re not going to have riots in the street over it. I kind of wish we would in a sort of way, but realistically simply voting the idiots out is probably the best way to deal with the problem.

    Of course Labour have their own issues but I feel like their issues that might actually be fixable, whereas the Tories just don’t care.

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