Comment on Americans are asleep, post European windows

RealFknNito@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• gmtom@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Opening from the bottom is inherently worse

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  • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    it’s inherently superior because you can have the window slam onto the fingers of a person trying to crawl in through the window

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    • FooBarrington@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      In Europe we use roller shutters for that

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      • lud@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You can have them on residential buildings‽

        I live in Europe and I have only seen them in commercial settings to protect store and stuff.

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  • TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They open from the top as well.

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    • anarchy79@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      At that point why do you even need windows?

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  • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The worse part is now they’re built cheaply so the screen is only the bottom half. You can still open the top, or from both top and bottom for convection, but now you get bugs

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    • oatscoop@midwest.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you get windows one step above “cheapest available” you get a moveable screen.

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    • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Windows are the kind of thing that are generally built locally for multiple reasons. So your experience will vary greatly based on what the window factory in your area is doing.

      Where I live, single hung windows (only one sash) are most common, so only one screen is needed. Double hung windows are less common because people don’t want to pay for the expense of the additional sash (a lot of springs and mechanisms needed for a sash). A screen is an expense too, but nowhere near the expense of an additional shaft. Possibly the intent was to allow for opening the top to making cleaning easier, but that’s usually accomplished by having the top “fixed” portion of the single hung window be able to tilt out because putting all the springs and mechanisms for an additional sash for a feature to make it easier to clean isn’t necessary.

      Yeah… I worked at a window factory before. The calculations needed to figure out the tension needed on the springs so that it will counter the weight of the sash was fun.

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    • Boop2133@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It entirely depends on who installed the windows and what brand. Our windows are amazing and high quality.

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    • lud@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      At least you get screens. Where I live mosquitoes are common and yet screens are very rare.

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  • FartsWithAnAccent@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ok, our windows can open from the sides or tops as well :D

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• EdibleFriend@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  One European downvoted you for speaking the truth

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  • anarchy79@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I downvoted because I’m French.

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    • EdibleFriend@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I downloaded you because you’re French.

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      • anarchy79@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Touché.

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• noobnarski@feddit.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That window design looks like it would never seal properly. Here in Germany any window from the last 30 years or more will not let any air in when its fully closed.

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  • CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why wouldn’t it seal?

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  • RealFknNito@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It seals. There’s a small recess underneath the window lined with weather stripping that when pressure is applied from closing the window and even locking it, it becomes air tight.

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  • Gumbyyy@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Double hung windows don’t seal quite as well as casement windows, but honestly, unless you’re going to the absolute best energy efficiency possible, like a net-zero house, then it’s really not a big difference. Any halfway decent quality, properly installed window won’t have any noticeable drafts. Plus, as others have mentioned, double hung windows are far cheaper than casement.

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  • AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We actually have the opposite issue. Windows here seal so well that indoor air quality slowly drops if you don’t run the central fan all day.

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• Loki@feddit.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Correct me if I’m wrong, but that style of window doesn’t allow you to open it fully, right?

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  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They open fully. The tilt feature is 10-15 degrees, but they swing open fully like a casement window in the US. At least the ones I used did.

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    • Loki@feddit.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I was talking about the window in the picture in the comment I replied to.

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    • ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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      • Marcbmann@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You can have screens. I don’t understand why everyone thinks these windows don’t have screens

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• anarchy79@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yeah I mean of course not in a prison. Which cell block is that?

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