imposing moderator will on community Rich, coming from the mod that banned me (permanently btw, when he usually gives out 1-day or 1-week bans) because I hurt his fee-fees.
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Stamets@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Politics is banned from c/memes@lemmy.world
And speaking as a mod, report things. The vast majority of things I’ve dealt with as a mod were ones I saw myself or things friends sent on discord. People need to utilize the report function more often if they want moderation on things. We’re not psychic.
As for being more stringent on the not being a dick rule, no. There’s a base level of civility we expect but if we start getting super stringent on what constitutes being a dick, that’s imposing moderator will on community and its what most of us left reddit to get away from.
Lastly, it’s the Internet. Assholes exist everywhere. You are not going to escape it, ever, if you’re using public servers. It’s pretty much required to accept that fact just to use the Internet. Moderators do not exist to prune and preen social media to make it more comfortable for people. We remind people to follow the rules and act upon those who do not. If you’re not breaking the rules then we’re not going to “interact” because we have our own lives and our own posts we are interested in.
TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 4 months ago
PakledBrain@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Stamets is the worst kind of power user. Spams garbage everywhere, argues with everyone. Fragile as glass.
TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Ok honestly thank you for that. I kind of gathered that from his pretty much only shitposting and attitude in his comments. Idk why but being banned because of him really bugged me.
PakledBrain@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Yeah you’re not crazy. He is provocative and cries transphobia when called out for it. Then deletes the comments that make him look bad.
Stamets@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I don’t remember you but the modlog says you were banned for homophobic comments. So I’m gonna go ahead and say that nah, you weren’t banned for calling someone out on a joke 👍
TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 4 months ago
You posted a misogynistic meme, I said “i thought we left that in 2023,” and apparently you didn’t like that so you called me a bigot and banned me.
Stamets@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Like I said, I’m going to go with the modlog reason of you being banned for homophobic comments 👍
haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 4 months ago
Thanks for elaborating. I didnt know the report button is not used often. Good advice. Will do just that.
As for moderation:
I‘m a mod myself (both here and on reddit) and I don‘t necessarily agree that its imposing to ask people for civility if a discussion gets heated and kneejerk reactions start popping up. But I‘m thankful for every mod that does the good work and even more so for you openly commenting about it. You’re doing important work.
Then there is „the internet“ which I think is like the world. If we were in a postapocalyptic hellscape, we‘d have no rules, no communities. Only fight to survive. But we aren’t and we do have communities and rules. Therefore, I‘d say we‘re still responsible for the stuff that happens in our tavern (for lack of a better analogy). Are we to keep the guy in the corner from saying things we dont like? No we shouldn’t, but we definitely should keep him from starting a bar fight.
This is just my opinion. Feel free to debate me on it. :)
theneverfox@pawb.social 4 months ago
I’d love to debate you on it, but you’re not giving me much to work with.
Generally, a mod willing to debate me is a mod I want around
haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 4 months ago
Trying my hardest not to make others regret opening the app. Both for my answer and stuff that I could have moderated.
MBM@lemmings.world 4 months ago
that’s imposing moderator will on community and its what most of us left reddit to get away from.
Now I’m curious how common this is, because it’s not at all why I left. I left to get away from Reddit the company. If anything I think Reddit subs tend to be moderated too leniently (which is good for Reddit, because hate is engagement)
Stamets@lemmy.world 4 months ago
That’s fair. It depends on the communities. Places like Tumblr and Pics had effectively no moderation which left the entire place just a shithole. But then you had places like WorldNews and StarTrek where the mods became specifically known for stirring shit and causing a boatload of problems. Hell, one particular moderator of StarTrek is the reason that so many other communities splintered off.
For me it was a lot of heavy handed moderation. The lack of moderation was frustrating too, don’t get me wrong, but I guess the communities I was most active in were ones where people were constantly pointing out how the moderators were terrible people.
MBM@lemmings.world 4 months ago
Right, that makes sense. I’ve managed to avoid most of that, except for two cases where a mod grew tired of the sub and decided to ruin it. One of them involved turning it into an unironic Mussolini fan sub so at least there the admins stepped in.
Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Are there any app notifications or email options to let yo know about reports? I modestly mod a couple subs and I have never found a way to reliably get report notifications unless I log in through a browser based front end.
Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I heard that someone was developing a tool to enable this
Stamets@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Personally not familiar with any but I can ask around
MrGG@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Hello again Mr. Stamets! ❤️
Stamets@lemmy.world 4 months ago
<3