I think it would be fair to charge him with reckless endangerment if he was involved with her hiring and there were clear red flags, but producers have extremely varied roles and I don’t know what his personal involvement was.
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nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 8 months agoAnything to a Wikipedia article on the incident it was the armorer that had previous experience with accidental discharges of firearms and I guess it’s the mere point of their presence during filming to make sure all guns are handled safely. Their job was to hand a safe gun to the actor, they didn’t do it and a person died. I don’t fucking see one reason to charge the actor, regardless of whether they happen to be a producer or not, and not charge the person actually responsible for the accident.
fidodo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
synae@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
Clear red flags, you say? latimes.com/…/alec-baldwin-rust-camera-crew-walke…
Maeve@kbin.social 8 months ago
He was the armorer’s boss, and the producer, so it was his job to make sure everything was as required. He failed his responsibilities, someone died. It’s pretty simple.
RandomStickman@kbin.social 8 months ago
It's maddening the amount of people deflecting responsibility off of him. If a workplace safety incident happened, and the boss has cultivated the lax culture against safety AND is involved with said incident, but he's not responsible? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
Maeve@kbin.social 8 months ago
Tbh, my first reaction was that it wasn’t fair; then I read more details as they were reported and had a moment of clarity. People get comfortable and mess up, it happens. This time, it cost someone their life.
For those worried about Alec, he has plenty of money. His ego and wallet will take a hit, but he’s not going to prison. He may or not be in a mental prison, but he can afford quality therapy, so if he is and chooses to stay there, that’s on him.
RandomStickman@kbin.social 8 months ago
I went on exactly the same path as you and I only read about it when I came across the articles casually browsing, I didn't actively seek them out.
There are people that knew more and are still defending him, which is wild.
wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 8 months ago
Literally no one is worried about him as a driving force bud, if you think thats the concern or topic of discussion you should probably sit it out
nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 8 months ago
Perhaps because Baldwin, as far as we know, did everything correctly? He had the armorer prepare the gun and assistant producer check it. The armorer failed to do it correctly and the assistant producer failed at their part of the job. They are guilty of the accident, because they did not follow the procedure required, not the person who gave them the task
RandomStickman@kbin.social 8 months ago
No one is absolving responsibility from the armourer.
But if I'm the boss of a warehouse, never enforce any OSHA safety standards against my staff, and one of them just signed off that they inspected the forklift that day without actually doing so, and I drove the forklift and killed someone because of the forklift's malfunction, I am, as the boss, partly responsible for the incident.
To say otherwise is flying against rules and regulations written in blood, as we can clearly see.
fidodo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s not that simple because there were a lot of producers and we don’t know what his involvement in her hiring was. A producer can do anything from practically everything to literally nothing.
Maeve@kbin.social 8 months ago
Lol! He was also the actor handling the weapon! We aren’t privy to grand jury evidence, so we’ll have to wait and see. I found this, for anyone interested. https://apnews.com/article/what-to-know-alec-baldwin-grand-jury-60eaa895deee6e762281d575bc4f75b3
Pity he didn’t insist on everyone being safe. I’m still musing the fact that live ammunition was even where it could possibly have been confused with blanks; I’m wondering if anyone has hired a PI to investigate Ms. Guiterrez and other cast and crew who may have had any grudges or other hm, conditions, that may have led to such an unfortunate accident. Or Baldwin himself. I’m not sure about LE investigating every angle, at all. In 2021, Baldwin had a net worth of ~$61 mn.
I looked and found this article, as well: https://www.distractify.com/p/alec-baldwin-net-worth. I would hope Mr. Baldwin has competent counsel and a competent PI. Nonetheless, he’s been charged, and I do understand the charges. All we can do is send best wishes, and see how it plays out in court. I’m sure any fan mail support that’s not inauthentic expressing solidarity and support would be appropriate and appreciated.
As an aside, seven kids. My heart goes out to his family.