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• Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I agree with that last point, but the rest ignores the fact that this refers especially, specifically to school zones, where, as stated previously, fast traffic is a bloodbath about to happen.

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  • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Define school zone. Like real school zone or town that zoned everything a school zone so they could get rid of sex offenders?

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    • Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We’re talking the area just around a school where it’s safe to assume there are likely to be a lot of children outside of vehicles.

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      • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Might be less children around exiting vehicles if road wasn’t designed for one fucking vehicle at a time made out bricks because some moron hired a city planner. Why don’t you just post snipers and shot ambulance drivers?

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• wesley@yall.theatl.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The road can have unnecessary curves that the sidewalks and bike lanes do not.

  There are other ways to slow vehicles as well such as chicanes that narrow the street at certain points such that only 1 vehicle can pass fit through it at once, raised crosswalks, etc. There are a lot of ways to design the street to force drivers to slow down and pay attention.

  Unfortunately, if drivers have room to speed then it comes at the expense of the well being and safety of everyone else (even other drivers).

  I agree that winding culdesacs suck btw, but a street grid doesn’t solve the problem if safety in front of a school. If designed poorly it can make it worse since long straight streets can easily be turned into drag strips of speeding vehicles. Street grids are fine and good, but they should not allow drivers to go faster than is compatible with a pleasant and safe environment for people outside of the vehicles.

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  • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I want to see a road that curves with a bike lane that doesn’t that isn’t so bizarre that no one would ever use it.

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    • wesley@yall.theatl.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Hard to find exactly that with a Google search but here’s an example of roughly what I was talking about

      …cloudfront.net/…/brisbane-dec-06-kf_164.jpg

      Not hard to imagine doing the same but with bike lanes and sidewalks

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      • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        A. That isn’t what you were talking about about

        B. You can’t find it because it doesn’t exist

        C. Congrats, this shit road is going to delay emergency responses and will cause accidents when there is even a slight amount of ice

        People are going to die because of abominations like this, not like you care.

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• Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Making winding roads slows down traffic but increases the amount of time it takes to cover a given distance

  You don’t do this everywhere. You do it where you want traffic speeds to be low. Residential streets, school zones, shopping precincts, and the like.

  Plus, you further aid pedestrians and cyclists by having these residential streets not be through-traffic, except to pedestrians and cyclists. Use “modal filters”.

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• psud@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The pedestrians and cyclists get good straight paths. The curves on the road are made by consuming its excess width

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  • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Cool show me an example of your fictional city. I want to see one that is a grid for cyclists+people and a burb for cars.

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