Comment on Proton Mail says that the new Outlook app for Windows is Microsoft's new data collection service

crystalmerchant@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• remotelove@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They can leech all the data they want from my employer. I don’t give a fuck. Never use company assets for personal business.

  Just be a little more careful with your own stuff, s’all.

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  • requiem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Depends on your sector of work. Imagine you’re a therapist or a lawyer…

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    • otter@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      A lot of healthcare and education institutions use Outlook as well, so I wouldn’t be surprised if mental health or legal uses it too. There may be rules about what kind of client/student/patient information can be sent over email

      I think the other comment applies regardless. Do work things on the work device/account and let the workplace handle any other concerns. When it comes time to discuss alternatives, you can make a case for something else

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      • requiem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I mean it even harvests typing data and Outlook also includes calendars etc… It’s really bad.

        But yes, I just suggested a re-evaluation of the use of Microsoft Outlook to my company …

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      • LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        All of it is compatible with HIPAA.

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      • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        There are dozens of articles about mental health systems selling patient data.

        People are worried about these dystopian futures, completely unaware that we’re living in one today. You can’t do anything, go anywhere, or buy anything without it being logged and sold for profit. Not without spending years of your time becoming a cyber security expert.

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    • Lichtblitz@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There are different versions of Outlook depending on your subscription. Companies that do things properly, never see the problematic, “free version” of Outlook. They have very fine control over the features and data collections they enable.

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    • remotelove@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Touché.

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• Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Why is your corp using the free mail app in windows??

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  • freebee@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Because it’s free in windows.

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• DmMacniel@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  pretty sure when you bring that up to your company, that another company will have access to internal communication, that they will do something against it. It’s a willing data breach.

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  • Yoz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There’s no other company with all the required certification that can replace Microsoft office suite so all corporations are stuck with it and tbh nobody cares.

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    • DmMacniel@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Perhaps nobody in the US or in jobs with non-sensitive data cares about that. In the EU this could backfire hard against Microsoft.

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    • LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There are plenty of other services that have the compliance check boxes. Most of them are garbage, expensive, and don’t come with 5% of the other tools that MS does.

      There is a choice, and companies choose ms because it is best.

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    • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This aint 365. This is a standalone thing.

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• cr1cket@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Let me introduce you to davmail.sourceforge.net

  Yes it works pretty fine with stupid O365. You can basically use whatever mailclient you desire with it.

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• oce@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Corporations will just have a contract that guarantees no harmful use of their data and not care about the details. They just want the lines to be able to sue if there’s an issue in the future. And honestly, I don’t see the issue with companies agreeing to collect data on each other. The issue is with private life, which should never be shared on company tools.

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• ElvenMithril@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  well, as far as you use it just for your work, who cares, right? It’s the same as I’d never use Lastpass, my corp use it and even offered it for our personal use :D thanks, but no thanks! For personal use I would never use any microsoft solution.

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