Read by almost no one. It is interesting because in many countries contracts are considered invalid if one of the parties is not properly informed and still accepts, affirmative consent is legally crucial. Everyone knows that EULAs systematically violate it, for some reason no one cares.
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hperrin@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Because you signed an agreement that lets them do that.
Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social 10 months ago
CheezyWeezle@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Whenever I see a checkbox or something that just says “Check here to confirm you accept our privacy policy” I think it’s funny because all I am legally agreeing to are the words actually in front of me. Sure, I agree with the standalone words “our privacy policy”. I’m not sure what that does for you, but i guess “our privacy policy” is an acceptable string of words.
UxyIVrljPeRl@lemmy.world 10 months ago
My last order in a questionable shop had a ‘return policy’ pop up, i had to screenshot. It was empty.
Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
Imagine how hard it would be to buy stuff or use free services if you actually had to read and understand the contracts every time.
Ok, I’ll quickly just check on Google maps what’s the capital of Mongolia. Oh, I need to read all that before seeing the map? Well, maybe later. Don’t really have the time for that right now.
If that’s what life was like, laziness would win nearly every time and companies would have hardly any users or customers. Eventually some companies would probably make super short contracts in order to lower the threshold.
Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social 9 months ago
I can already see it: "We'll do whatever we want without accepting any responsibility and we'll spy on you to monetize it. Click here to accept."
It's a complicated issue, maybe with summaries, requiring affirmative consent only for certain actions, or splitting them up? I don't know, it all seems messy. But I hope it leaves behind the expectation that we lie by agreeing to sell your firstborn's soul after reading for hours in legalese.
Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
LOL, that was a brilliant summary about what these contracts usually boil down to. However, they should probably include these things too: “You’re not allowed to do anything cool. If anything goes wrong, it’s always your fault.”
These brutally honest super short contracts could be fun to read.
Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Additionally, we can try to change the laws so we do actually own a copy.
Auli@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
But we never owned a copy of any software or movie ever. We always had a license to watch or use the copy we purchased.
Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Why does that matter to my point?
“But we’ve always been enslaved. We’ve never had rights as individuals in the first place.” Is not an argument against change.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Also, don’t use Google. Wherever possible.
deweydecibel@lemmy.world 10 months ago
If you have an Android, they are increasingly making it impossible to not use them. They continue to punish users that choose to unlock the bootloader or root, and Google Play Services are an inescapable prerequisite to many apps, regardless of side loading ability.
psud@lemmy.world 9 months ago
“the boot loader is only safe if it is signed by Google”
How ever did I get out of the '80s with computers with dangerous unsigned boot loaders
player2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
I’ve used F-Droid without unlocking the bootloader or rooting or Google Play services integration. Developers are free to use F-Droid, most just choose not to. Hopefully it becomes even more popular as gplay has more issues.
firecat@kbin.social 10 months ago
Don’t buy games on Steam or Valve Corporation, they make you sign the User Agreement that legally waves your rights and ownership of games.
Gestrid@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Actually, Steam is usually one of the best places when it comes to refunds. The process is simple, and they’re willing to make exceptions to the rules. And the company is run by one of the few CEOs in the gaming industry who seem to actually understand gaming.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 10 months ago
And a large portion of the steam community will be super sad if Gaben retires or passes away. We can only hope it continues to be run as well as it has been over the past 15 years.
firecat@kbin.social 9 months ago
AU lawsuit against Valve proves Valve didn’t want to refund their customers. Valve is guilty of this violation of Australia law. Many people who used Steam before 2010 tell people they were never given refunds oran option for refunds.
Valve is not good guys, they fought the Australia government to the very top to not pay or offer refunds. They are greedy.
rambaroo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
They literally had to be sued by multiple jurisdictions to even offer refunds. The count of Valve needs to die.