I disagree. Issues of where to draw the line as to what represents “free speech and debate” and what represents “toxic behavior” and how to deal with the latter without squashing the former are pretty central to the fediverse fulfilling its potential, and concrete examples of how it’s playing out in practice are part of that conversation. In my opinion.
There’s a certain portion of it that honestly is just sour grapes on my part, yeah, which isn’t ideal for this forum. I can admit that. But the issue at the heart of it is also an important issue to discuss if this is to be a worthwhile platform. In my opinion.
You just said
Just recently I was actually arguing with some people and pointing out that I’d never had my stuff removed on Lemmy even though I have some viewpoints that are way more unpopular than “Israel shouldn’t kill civilians.”
and are complaining when one of your comments get removed. From your post it doesn’t seem like a trend of the fediverse
I was saying that recently as a big point in the Lemmy-portion-of-the-fediverse’s favor, then after that, these events happened and belied my early statement.
Yeah but this the first time it’s happened to you right?
Yes, and I plan to complain about it again if it happens in the future. I like it here, more or less, so if people entrusted to operate pieces of the network seem like they’re acting badly I plan to talk about it.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 10 months ago
I don’t see how it relates at all. The mod made a decision for their server and followed it through. That seems pretty fediverse to me. What would also be purely fediverse is if you created your own server then you could post whatever you wanted.
mo_ztt@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Well, I made a decision for my user account to create my post, and followed it through. That also seems pretty fediverse to me. And yet, here you are, trying to create a comment saying you disagree with my decision. In a public forum no less.
dustyData@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yay, free speech at its finest. You having a right to say something doesn’t exonerate you from the consequences of said thing, nor does it protect you from other’s opinions about what you said. You’re butthurt, noted. Why should we care?
mo_ztt@lemmy.world 10 months ago
But, within the context of lemmy.ml worldnews, I don’t have the right to say this thing. That’s the whole reason we’re talking about this. Plenty plenty of times online and offline I’ve said some thing and everyone’s yelled at me about how I’m wrong, and that’s completely fine with me. Removing the comment is a different story. And yes, I got butthurt about it and came to complain about it. Is it legal? Sure, they’re not the government, so the first amendment doesn’t apply to them. Can I go somewhere else? Sure. Do I feel like complaining because the mod did that? Sure. And so, here we are.
If that behavior by mods doesn’t bother you once you read the context, then you’re not the target audience and you don’t need to care, no. That part is completely up to you.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 10 months ago
yeah, and the owner of the server can swoop in and remove both if they wanted. That was my point?
Or you can build your own server and leave whatever comment you want and not remove it.
mo_ztt@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Oh, I understood what you were saying. I think you missed the point that I was making in response, but that’s okay.