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ExLisper@linux.community ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

On the other hand I can think of many more cases when someone was killed by erratic driver. It kind of sounds like you’re ignoring something occurring every day and focusing on fantasy scenario. It’s obvious that eliminating even 1% of accidents caused by erratic drivers would save more lives than people racing to hospitals do.

I’m not saying that shutting off cars based on some AI analyzing your driving patterns is a good idea but you really need to think about another argument than “this one guy would probably die this one time”.

Also, that’s what ambulances are for. Fixing the ambulance service would be a better idea than hoping people will manage to race to hospitals without killing anyone.

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FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
in the case the guy was talking about he never would have made it if they waited for and ambulance. and your “fantasy scenario” occurs more than you’d like to admit, especially in rural areas. it’s the old adage, “i’d rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it”

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- ExLisper@linux.community ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Do you actually know how often it occurs? Of course not. There’s no way to tell because the people that decide it’s “erratic race to hospital time” are not doctors so they have no idea if they are saving lives or just putting more people in danger.
  
  Also, your old adage makes no sense here. Erratic driving is not something that you have stored in your basement and can take out and use in case of emergency. It’s something people do all the time for no reason and it kill thousands of people every year. You’re talking about it like racing to a hospital with a dying person was the main reason why people drive like crazy. It’s not. It’s insignificant % of all the erratic driving cases.
  
  Again, I’m sure there are good arguments to oppose automatic driving patterns detection. This is not one of them.
  
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  - skulblaka@startrek.website ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Counterpoint, all it takes is one person to die in the car because the car disabled itself on them while trying to get to a hospital, and suddenly hungry lawyers are swooping in all over your entire company.
    
    I imagine the manufacturer will have some excuse about “if it was an emergency they should have called an ambulance” and I also imagine that won’t stand up to a stiff breeze in court.
    
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    ExLisper@linux.community ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    If the manufacturer is building cars according to the specs defined by the law how can he be sued? Also, what do you care if the manufacturer will be sued?
    
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HelixDab2@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Also, that’s what ambulances are for.

Many people have died waiting for ambulances that didn’t come, or took too long. Houses in my area have burned down because the fire department couldn’t figure out where an address was because GPS gives them the wrong location.

If I slip while working with a chainsaw and cut my femoral artery, I’m not going to tell my wife to wait for an ambulance; I’m going to get a tourniquet on and have her drive me as fast as she can to the hospital, because that will save me 20 minutes–minimum, and that’s if they’re not already out on a call on the other side of the county–over waiting for an ambulance.

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