At the least, put the screenshot and the link in the post. We can do both, people.
Comment on Welp that answers a lot of why all .ml are down
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Link to the actual post OP screenshotted: very.bignutty.xyz/notes/9hf13it1ced3b2za
Screenshots of text are not the way. The crappy “hey, a text thing I want to share, let me take an accessibility-poisoning screenshot and upload that graphic file like a psychopath instead of just copy/pasting either the link to the text or the text itself like a decent human being” routine needs to die with Reddit, we have to be better than that here.
TheSpookiestUser@lemmy.world 1 year ago
shashi154263@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah, this is the correct way, because posts often become inaccessible.
jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 1 year ago
Screenshots stay with time, I hate it when I arrive a bit later and the link is already dead and I have no idea what it said.
Cyyy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
…except when the image hoster suddenly dies and 10000s of Screenshots suddenly vanish from the internet and all howto’s etc are killed by it
jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 1 year ago
That’s why you shouldn’t use external image hosters but embed the picture the normal way. Then if the lemmy instance dies then the screenshot dies with it but not seperatelly.
Cyyy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
well, often webprojects don’t have that much money so hosting communitys who post a lot of images, videos etc. costs a lot of money. because that a lot of users use imagehosters to bypass this issue.
ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
If you can post an image, you can post text, right?
Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Image in the post, text+link in the description, everyone happy.
hypelightfly@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Copy/pasted text stays with time too and doesn’t have the issues that pictures of text do. Also hosted images disappear all the time.
mob@lemmy.world 1 year ago
[deleted]rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 1 year ago
So copy/paste the text, and link the original.
mob@lemmy.world 1 year ago
[deleted]hypelightfly@lemmy.world 1 year ago
They can do that in the image as well. For example:
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Screenshots are no more unalterable or trustworthy than text. Why note copy/pasted text and a link?
jackoneill@lemmy.world 1 year ago
We should copy paste the text, post a screenshot as an attachment, and a link, and then carve the screenshot into a stone tablet to be put on display in the basement of the british national history museum
holy shit guys, just post the data however the fuck is easiest
Imgonnatrythis@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah, it’s 2023, just take a video of your screen and upload that like the kids all do now.
whoamibro@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Accessibility should be enhanced to read text from image. Enduser shouldn’t care about how he should share an information. How hard is it to read a font from a text?
condenser@lemdro.id 1 year ago
How hard is it to read a font from a text?
My man, you just don’t know how crappy OCR can be with non-latin alphabet writing systems, especially Chinese characters.
If the source is already in text (perfectly accessible), why should we make an image out of it? That’s like saying let’s email a document, but instead of the original doc file, let’s print them out, scan, and then send the pdf of those images instead.
whoamibro@lemmy.world 1 year ago
If the source is already in text (perfectly accessible), why should we make an image out of it? That’s like saying let’s email a document, but instead of the original doc file, let’s print them out, scan, and then send the pdf of those images instead.
That is not a correct analogy because printing and scanning a document is less convenient than just forwarding the email. But here, most people are comfortable taking a ss and share it. That’s what they’re learnt. So they keep doing that.
My man, you just don’t know how crappy OCR can be with non-latin alphabet writing systems, especially Chinese characters.
That’s why the OCR tools have to be improved. They should atleast be able to read the top 10 most used fonts in a language without issues.
condenser@lemdro.id 1 year ago
The analogy is just an attempt at explaining, no need to argue about them. The main point is about giving preference to the original copy, not the lossy and inefficient copy. No matter how image to text conversion tools get better there always be a gap.
astral_avocado@programming.dev 1 year ago
Yeah that’s not gonna happen
phx@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Screenshots of text preserve the state of the text at the time it was seen…
Yes, it’s not good for accessibility but it’s a good way to quickly capture a moment in time.
(I would recommend perhaps also copy/pasting a synopsis for people who might be vision impaired etc)
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 1 year ago
So copy/paste the text, and link to the original.
phx@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
That’s kinda what I was saying? Include the snapshot but also the original text body as a copy/paste for those using screen-readers or other such tools
Phlogiston@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Also, modern tools are getting pretty good at dealing with text embedded in images. It isn’t ideal but this partially mitigates a large concern (accessibility). Rather than complaining about people taking screenshots maybe pressure should be placed on the screenshot tools, and image formats, to better capture the raw text exactly and embed it as extra data along with the image.