Comment on We Can Still Stop California’s 3D Printer Surveillance Scheme
TIEPilot@lemmy.world 2 weeks agotried to ban someone with a table saw from building a birdhouse.
Thats a perfectly succinct analogy.
Comment on We Can Still Stop California’s 3D Printer Surveillance Scheme
TIEPilot@lemmy.world 2 weeks agotried to ban someone with a table saw from building a birdhouse.
Thats a perfectly succinct analogy.
Pretty sure you could make a gun too, which is the point of this 3D printer thing
And like what about other CNC machines?
I like that California is on the frontier of many tech laws, but this and the age thing are particularly dumb lately
TIEPilot@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I made an AR15 with a hobby drill press from Lowes at work. Give me a hunk of metal, a micrometer and a file and I can make you a gun.
Or worse.
PattyMcB@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m pretty sure that’s already illegal in CA
TIEPilot@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I think at this point it easier to list what isn’t illegal in California.
grue@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Neat, I would’ve assumed you’d need a mill or a lathe, not just a drill press. Link to instructions?
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The upper reciever is the load bearing part on an Armalite, but it’s also not the regulated part. The lower receiver is, and all you need for that is a box that holds the trigger components in vaguely the right place, a hole that lines up the magazine, a hole to stick the buffer tube into at the back, and some way to nail the upper receiver to it.
You could carve an AR lower out of wood if you were dedicated enough.
TIEPilot@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It won’t be accurate or be a long baller w/o a lathe to make a rifled barrel. Not that you couldn’t mke a barrel with hand tools, it just would be very difficult.
And like others have said, only the lower receiver is the controlled item. You goto Brownels and can buy 98% of an AR w/o a background check.
PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Shovel AK is a thing too. There are stencils out there for it.
TIEPilot@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Gah how can I forget about the shovel AK???
tomiant@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
And that is illegal, as it should be. The efficacy of a law has nothing to do with whether it’s moral.
It’s like saying “we don’t have the manpower to police murder effectively, so we are gonna legalize murder”. It’s a fundamental misunderstanding of what the law is fucking for.
TIEPilot@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No its not illegal:
www.atf.gov/firearms/privately-made-firearms
You can’t make a machine gun or other items on the NFA list though. Well you can but thats lawyers, paperwork, a good reason, oh yeah a whole tome of money…
An homemade AR15 is completely legal to be made at the federal level.
The rest of your comment is off base.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
TIEPilot@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
lol ok…
mctoasterson@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Nobody tell California about a nail combined with certain diameters of pipe, because guess what, those can become guns too.
TIEPilot@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
zip guns, lets bring in slam fired shotguns.
Never doubt the ingenuity of man killing other men.
tomiant@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Thank god we have laws prohibiting and enforcing it then.
tomiant@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
And that is illegal and you’ll rightly spend a lot of time in jail for doing that, shit you can go to prison for suggesting it.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Pipe bombs are not exactly uncommon. Most of those are exactly that. Pipe and nails, packed with homemade explosives.
PattyMcB@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If I’m not mistaken, this DOES cover ALL manufacturing devices, and if it doesn’t, it will in the future
masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
monsieur_hackerman@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
This isn’t gun control though. It’s surveillance.
Oneiros@eviltoast.org 2 weeks ago
Yeah I’ve lived in CA for about 10 years now and have loved it, but the new laws they are passing are making it extremely likely that I’ll be moving soon. Especially with tje fact that we are either getting either Becerra who’s in Big AI and Big Oils pocket.