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dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

I haven’t even bought a 5G phone yet. My carrier keeps threatening to cut 4G coverage in various areas, and has already axed 3G entirely, rendering large swathes of otherwise perfectly functional devices useless. So far my 4G Moto Z still works. For now.

At this point my conspiracy opinion that the constant “generation” changes are mostly to just force people to buy/lease new phones and devices. Even pokey old 4G has always been more than fast enough for all of my mobile internet activities. Hell, even 3G was.

I have no less than four otherwise flawlessly functional phones in a desk drawer that just won’t work with my cell carrier because they’ve either turned off 3G or discontinued the specific 4G bands those devices need.

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lyam23@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I live in a medium size city with extensive Verizon coverage. 5g here is still dogshit. It’s always slower than LTE and even though towers are everywhere, my phone is constantly switching back and forth.

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- fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  mmwave 5g or “5g”? On T-Mobile near me I get anywhere from 200Mbps down to over gigabit down depending on the location.
  
  A few areas are the shitty 5g that’s essentially 4g+. But most areas around me have really good coverage with pretty insane speeds.
  
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  - yamanii@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    How would anyone know? Why is it even possible to “fake” 5G? Just makes everyone that doesn’t know about it to just complain and think it sucks.
    
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    fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    On T-Mobile shitty 5g is just called 5g in the top next to your signal strength. The mmwave 5g is called 5g uc. Every carrier does something different.
    
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iopq@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
What percentage of people use 3g only phones? If it’s 1%, does it make sense to keep those services running just for those people?

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- dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  It’s not necessarily phones. It’s trackers, monitoring devices, laptops, access points, and tablets that all run over 3G bands.
  
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  - iopq@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Great! You can get 4g/5g versions of those devices because, again, the world doesn’t owe the 1% of users services
    
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- AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Older Kindles. Cars
  
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  - iopq@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    It’s still a small number of users no matter how many use cases you list. There are newer Kindles and newer cars. 3g being turned off is inevitable no matter how many old devices are in existence.
    
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- bamboo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  In the US almost none, the networks are being shut down.
  
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- user224@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  It’s not just for that. 3G isn’t that overloaded. In my area I get 1-3Mbps on 4G LTE but around 20Mbps on 3G HSPA+.
  
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  - iopq@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    It’s not overloaded because fewer people use it, so it costs more to run those services for less benefit
    
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Pregnenolone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I totally agree with you that generation changes are either currently or going to be used as a form of planned obsolescence. I reckon that within 10 years or so we’ll have sub generation types (things 6.5G) that will force people to buy new devices.

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Aux@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
As a person living in a densely populated city of London, I don’t want 6G, I need 10G and I need it yesterday. There’s no conspiracy, there’s an obvious and objective reality.

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- MonkderZweite@feddit.ch ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  5G was made for your usecase…
  
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  - Aux@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    5G is not enough. It was too late to arrive. And I can’t imagine how bad it is in cities in Asia, where density is even higher.
    
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    MonkderZweite@feddit.ch ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    No, i mean, it was made to better handle 100s of concurrent streams to the same tower.
    
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LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I was forced to upgrade since i was still rocking a 3g phone and my area switched to 5g. The phone company gave me a free Pixel6 since it wasnt my choice to upgrade. Maybe if you hold out long enough you’ll just get a free upgrade. Though it was a double edge sword, since they tried to up my monthly bill since i was “upgraded” to “premium data”. I had to fight that and still ended up paying a few bucks more than previously, but better than what they tried to charge me.

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