Where I live, only single use vapes are legal.
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ExLisper@linux.community 10 months ago
This shit really grinds my gears. There’s absolutely no need for this product. Normal vape is like $20, you’re not saving on anything. In EU they manufacturers are obligated to recover used units (they have to setup boxes where you can drop them and handle recycling) but obviously you see them on the ground all the time. This should be banned with the speed of light but EC thinks the current regulations are enough. Fucking infuriating.
Virulent@reddthat.com 10 months ago
Rediphile@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Tobacco companies must love anti-ecig regulations like that lol.
SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 10 months ago
People are lazy and don’t want to maintain a vape, which does require some basic maintenance/cleaning.
ExLisper@linux.community 10 months ago
Never heard about it. My GF vapes and the vape is simply a battery with a charger. The liquid container is exchangeable. You refill it and when it runs out you change it. There’s no maintenance. And even if it were true what do I care? We’re supposed to contaminate the environment with batteries because some people are inconvenienced by their addiction? As I said, this product is not needed and should be banned.
targetx@programming.dev 10 months ago
It’s definitely the way to go, and the maintenance is easy. You do need to replace the coil every now and then though FYI.
kava@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Vape is very little maintenance. They even came out with disposable atomizer tanks. So I paid like $50~ or so for the battery which you charge with those big batteries they make ebikes & tesla batteries out of.
The tank works for a few weeks and then you buy another one. Much easier than going to store to buy ecigs all the time
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
There’s absolutely no need for this product. Normal vape is like $20
A single use disposable is like $4 - $10, depending on how many puffs, and some people just want something they can puff on for the weekend and then quit, not something they can use/reuse long term.
Sure it’s not healthy, and it’s environmentally irresponsible with current single use disposables, but there’s definitely a market of “casual smokers” that don’t want to commit to a non-disposable vape.
ExLisper@linux.community 10 months ago
Really? People smoke for one weekend and then quit? Never ever heard about this. Sure, there are people that smoke sporadically, for example only while partying or something but this is such a minority I doubt anyone would target a product specifically at them. Besides, you can just buy normal vape and buy refills only for one weekend and then ‘quit’. $20 non-disposable vape is no commitment, that’s my point. And people who can’t afford to spend $20 on a vape probably shouldn’t be spending their money on smoking anyway. There’s tons of policies to discourage people from smoking, banning cheap, single use vapes should be one of them.
jasondj@ttrpg.network 10 months ago
There certainly are casual smokers, who might buy a pack of cigarettes on Friday and be done with it by Sunday (usually after giving out several along the way) to repeat the next week.
These people don’t see themselves as addicts, and they for all intents and purposes aren’t, otherwise they’d be jonesing all week and buying a pack on Monday.
Making the leap from “having a finite amount of smoke” to “owning reusable paraphernalia” is a big jump for a casual smoker. And more than likely would enable them to justify smoking during the week.
It’s the same thing as the guy who buys an eight of weed, brings it to the party, smokes a flew blunts, and then doesn’t smoke the whole week. This guy has no need for a glass bong in his house, and he wouldn’t be able to justify its purpose, but its existence would likely mold his occasional use into something more frequent.
ExLisper@linux.community 10 months ago
What you’re describing is such a tiny minority of smokers I really don’t see why we need specific product aimed at them. If they don’t want to own a vape they can just keep smoking cigarettes. It would be better for everyone if they just stopped smoking. Contaminating environment with disposable batteries for their convenience is just insane.
lolcatnip@reddthat.com 10 months ago
When it’s easier for people to litter, they litter more. I don’t care if they want to vape while pretending they’re only gonna do it for one weekend.
sleepy555@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Disposable e-cigarettes were a direct and immediate response to pod based vapes getting banned. Use to be, you would buy a device and just buy juice pods that were disposable. It still wasn’t great for waste, but that policy was a clear step in the wrong direction.
They saved children from using Juuls, just to fill the landfills with lithium batteries.
ExLisper@linux.community 10 months ago
You’re talking about US, right? I don’t think pod based vapes are banned in EU. And disposable ones are still sold here.
themurphy@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I was in Italy recently, and I could ONLY buy single use. I fucking hated it as it died in two days making me throw out an otherwise fine device - just because there’s no charging port.
Now I have one lasting for almost half a year, and that’s only the taste that dissappears - not the battery becoming bad.
ExLisper@linux.community 10 months ago
I believe the regulations about replaceable batteries will apply here but they are only coming to life in 2025 or even later.
themurphy@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Aah okay! It’s good to know.