Comment on I'm Starting A Search Engine For The Fediverse

• rglullis@communick.news ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  There are vulnerable groups of people who have a harassment risk against them.

  People that are at risk for what they write on the public internet should be protected and empowered by having better privacy tools, not by pretending that they can have a “safe space” on the public internet.

  There is no such thing as privacy on the internet. The Fediverse makes it seem that it mitigates the surveillance problem by spreading the information around and not having it under the control of one single large entity, but the truth is that the Fediverse makes it actually easier for dedicated malicious actors to collect data and reach their targets.

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  • smeg@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Exactly. If you’re worried about someone searching for your post then you should not be posting it online (or at least ensuing you use an account that’s anonymous enough that it can’t be associated with you). If you want private chats then set up a group in matrix or signal!

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• ggsu7@futurology.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Unpopular opinion: overly sensitive people should not be allowed to use the internet. Why should everything revolve around their insecurities? Grow a thicker skin or stop using the internet.

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  • gabe@literature.cafe ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There are instances on the fediverse that have harassed people to their deaths. So…

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  • kaffiene@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If people have set up communities that work with standards that you don’t like, you don’t have to be part of it. Equally you don’t get to dictate standards for them.

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    • Womble@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      But equally equally, if they set up their own communities in public but just an obscure location, they shouldn’t complain that their public posts are public. Security by obscurity is no security. Frankly its the worst of all worlds to have a place like that as it encourages feeling safe while having the possibility of having the rug pulled out from under you at any moment.

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      • kaffiene@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Which is why the fediverse has a culture of respecting different communities needs.

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  • spiderman@ani.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    i don’t support this statement but if there is a safe space on some part of fediverse that is dedicated for people who suffer from insecurities or other problems, why can’t it be indexed so that more people can find a safe space for them too?

    most of the fediverse platforms have good moderation tools that can even ban a whole instance, so why are we still trying to gatekeep the safe spaces?

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    • TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      And once you have this index of a vulnerable group of people how do you gatekeep that from the trolls? And moderation tools only work on this platform, the problem is the trolls that take that info to everything these people interact with and make it a game to give them no peace.

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• 0x1C3B00DA@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Those vulnerable groups should have the tools to protect themselves, but that shouldn't stop the rest of us from having a functional and discoverable system. The internet, and the fediverse specifically, have always been a semi-public space and searchability has been a part of that since the beginning.

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