Comment on Apple says it will remove services such as FaceTime and iMessage from the UK rather than weaken security if new proposals are made law and acted upon.

• Beans_On_Banana@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  No, the UK just doesn’t have enough population to bargain with.

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• tdawg@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  it has more to do with where their factors are located. Hard to negotiate with the people who control the very land and people you utilize to build your hardware

  Not saying that justifies it, just think we should be accurate with our outrage

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  • breakfastmtn@geddit.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They could have factories in China and not sell phones there. There are also other places to build factories. They just might have to trim back their 42% profit margin. It’s still a willingness to abandon principles for a price, isn’t it?

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  • PooCrafter93@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah I agree that the CCP have more leverage due to the factories, aa well as the larger user base.

    Just like to point out apple aren’t some altruistic organisation, they are a corporation out to make money, and that the CCP suck.

    Also, I profoundly disagree with the legislation this thread was originally about.

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  • rbits@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I think it’s more that they know they don’t have any negotiating power in China. China doesn’t care if they have iMessage, but the UK and the british people do.

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    • jr52@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Chinese have wechat

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• breakfastmtn@geddit.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I mean, they didn’t cave to Russia either. Apple just has principles until there’s enough cash on the table. Then they claim to “always abide by local laws” wherever they operate.

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  • PooCrafter93@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah you are right there, just being too smart mouthed I guess

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    • breakfastmtn@geddit.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Nah you were appropriately smart mouthed. The problem was my clumsy post intro.

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• damnYouSun@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Oh, they are authoritarian enough. They just aren’t powerful enough.

  Want to know what it looks like to go power crazy with no power, then go look at the Tories.

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  • PooCrafter93@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I respectfully disagree with this statement

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