Comment on Tesla driver who killed 2 people while using autopilot must pay $23,000 in restitution without having to serve any jail time

TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• ladicius@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Germany the same. Small fine, three month without license, that’s it for killing a human being.

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  • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If we’re talking about an honest accident then how long do you think the jail term should be?

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    • sbv@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “honest accident” is the crux of the question. If the driver was doing everything perfectly and some other party was entirely responsible for the accident, not much (maybe none?).

      But, at least in my corner of Canada, most drivers are not behaving responsibly or adhering to the law. Speeding, following too closely, illegally passing, and using phones while driving are common. If a driver kills someone while doing something overtly dangerous, they deserve jail time.

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      • Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I hate that speed(ing) always gets lumped in whenever “dangerous behavior” comes up. Going faster than an arbitrary road sign says you should isn’t inherently dangerous.

        Going faster than the arbitrary road sign can be dangerous. Going the speed the arbitrary road sign says can be dangerous. Going slower than the arbitrary road sign can be dangerous.

        It’s about the conditions of the road, paying attention, signaling to other drivers what you’re trying to do, and being prepared for people and animals to do something dumb.

        following too closely using phones while driving

        These things are on a whole other level than speeding or “illegally” passing. But the person who can’t keep their car centered in the lane, wrecks every other winter, doesn’t use their turn signal, doesn’t notice an ambulance right behind them, and drives too close to the car in front of them will say “I’m a GOOD driver because I don’t speed. Shame on all these bad drivers that pass me!”

        Even worse some of those “GOOD” non-speeding drivers will try to “police the roads” and prevent people from getting around them which literally results in completely pointless deaths.

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    • Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If it were an honest accident then nothing. If it were due to neglect or lack of due diligence then maybe a few months of of weekend jail or month of full time jail.

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      • MisterFrog@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        For killing someone? Causing someone’s death due to negligence is only worth a month of jail to you?

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    • grue@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If we’re talking about an honest accident

      There is no such thing.

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    • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      In the US that’s called “involuntary manslaughter” and presumably the sentences are shorter, but also still exist so people can’t throw up their hands and go “whoops! That was totes an accident” and get off scot-free.

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  • Pechente@feddit.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Holy shit, really? Never looked into it but judging by how people drive here (lots of people on their phones while driving, missing red lights all the time) it certainly doesn’t seem like there are severe consequences for any wrongdoings.

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