Comment on Dear server admins, please defederate threads.net. Dear users, ask your server admin to defederate threads.net.

• Bo7a@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Not quite the same result. Blocking the instance stops you seeing their posts, but not the comments coming from their users.

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  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I didn’t actually know that. Thanks for mentioning it

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    • Bo7a@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Mt pleasure. TMYK!

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  • masimatutu@nerdica.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No, that's just Lemmy. On Masto it blocks all users.

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    • Bo7a@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Fair. But I’m on lemmy for discussion I don’t want threads’ bobbleheaded userbase fucking up every discussion thread on lemmy. So I will stay on instances that have de-federated that shithole and urge other instances to do the same.

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      • masimatutu@nerdica.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        But they won't. Seeing how little even the relatively federation-conscious Mastodonians interact with Lemmy, from Threads it will be close to zero (especially since the devs are very "careful" with federation and probably won't display article-formatted posts anytime soon).

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    • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We are on lemmy. So they are right in this context. I really couldn’t give a crap about anything like Twitter because I hate everything about that type of medium.

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      • masimatutu@nerdica.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The thing is, you don't really see anything from the Microblogging Fediverse around here at all, do you, so why would you from Threads? And Meta will only explicitly collect your data if you follow one of their accounts, which is impossible from Lemmy. So in a Lemmy context it is quite irrelevant.

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• moitoi@feddit.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s a similar situation as with the unions. We can all manage to have a pay rise by ourselves. Or, we unionize and ask together for the pay rise.

  Defederating the instance is like unionizing. We all go forward instead of individually to have weight. This weight is in form of killing asap the federating attempt, as threads.net users will have nothing to see in the Fediverse. If you let each user manage the situation, threads.net can do whatever they want. There is no individual responsibility in this case. We have to play collectively.

  We need to play collectively because the Fediverse isn’t one monolithic network, unlike Meta. It’s a federated network. It’s each instance and Meta. This is why unionizing is important. It’s the Fediverse and Meta. This is the magic of activity pub. You can let others use the protocol but say no to the interaction with them.

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  The second aspect is that Meta is relying on “cognitive capitalism”. Meta will use free cognitive time from the Fediverse to capitalize. This has huge implication on mental health and all kind of minorities relying on the Fediverse for various reasons. We can say all together no to this, what isn’t possible individually. I recommend the book “The Soul at Work From Alienation to Autonomy” by Franco “Bifo” Berardi. It’s a good book to understand the issue with Meta and others.

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  • Masimatutu@mander.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Look, I hate Meta as much as the next person, but they really don’t have that much leverage over the Fediverse as people are making it seem. It is completely optional to follow their accounts so they have little direct control over people’s feeds, not to mention that their active userbase is quite small. I’d say a better approach is simply restricting interaction by making it opt-in in all ways, just like social.coop.

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