Comment on Dear server admins, please defederate threads.net. Dear users, ask your server admin to defederate threads.net.

• masimatutu@nerdica.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I'm just saying that even on federated instances the users can choose to block Threads, and that that gives the same result for them. There's no need to force the hand of the user; there are more than enough corpo-critical people on Fedi for it not to be taken over by Meta.

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  • Bo7a@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Not quite the same result. Blocking the instance stops you seeing their posts, but not the comments coming from their users.

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    • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I didn’t actually know that. Thanks for mentioning it

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      • Bo7a@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Mt pleasure. TMYK!

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    • masimatutu@nerdica.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No, that's just Lemmy. On Masto it blocks all users.

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      • Bo7a@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Fair. But I’m on lemmy for discussion I don’t want threads’ bobbleheaded userbase fucking up every discussion thread on lemmy. So I will stay on instances that have de-federated that shithole and urge other instances to do the same.

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      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        We are on lemmy. So they are right in this context. I really couldn’t give a crap about anything like Twitter because I hate everything about that type of medium.

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  • moitoi@feddit.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s a similar situation as with the unions. We can all manage to have a pay rise by ourselves. Or, we unionize and ask together for the pay rise.

    Defederating the instance is like unionizing. We all go forward instead of individually to have weight. This weight is in form of killing asap the federating attempt, as threads.net users will have nothing to see in the Fediverse. If you let each user manage the situation, threads.net can do whatever they want. There is no individual responsibility in this case. We have to play collectively.

    We need to play collectively because the Fediverse isn’t one monolithic network, unlike Meta. It’s a federated network. It’s each instance and Meta. This is why unionizing is important. It’s the Fediverse and Meta. This is the magic of activity pub. You can let others use the protocol but say no to the interaction with them.

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    The second aspect is that Meta is relying on “cognitive capitalism”. Meta will use free cognitive time from the Fediverse to capitalize. This has huge implication on mental health and all kind of minorities relying on the Fediverse for various reasons. We can say all together no to this, what isn’t possible individually. I recommend the book “The Soul at Work From Alienation to Autonomy” by Franco “Bifo” Berardi. It’s a good book to understand the issue with Meta and others.

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    • Masimatutu@mander.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Look, I hate Meta as much as the next person, but they really don’t have that much leverage over the Fediverse as people are making it seem. It is completely optional to follow their accounts so they have little direct control over people’s feeds, not to mention that their active userbase is quite small. I’d say a better approach is simply restricting interaction by making it opt-in in all ways, just like social.coop.

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