Comment on Dear server admins, please defederate threads.net. Dear users, ask your server admin to defederate threads.net.

• Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They’re a multinational corporation, they don’t need us to host their shit for you to be able to read a goddamn article and learn something.

  If you don’t yet understand that they’re evil that’s on you.

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  • BaroqueInMind@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What if I don't care if they're evil?

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    • Zorque@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Then feel free to go to threads or somewhere that does federate with them. You don't have to stay on a particular instance if they don't federate with something you want to engage with.

      That's your freedom of choice.

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      • BaroqueInMind@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        There is no plan for kbin to defederate with Threads, which is why I'm here you dolt. Maybe you should leave.

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    • Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Then you’re evil. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      Go ahead, be evil. It is certainly your right.

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      • TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’ve noticed a lot of turfing on all of these threadsfed posts. It’s becoming more and more. People just need to get a threads account if it’s so important to them.

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      • BaroqueInMind@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Thanks, it is my prerogative.

        This is the point of the freedom of federated communities: we can read whatever the fuck we want from wherever the fuck we want without having authoritarian censor-heavy limp-wrist adult-baby moderators and corporate fascists determining what we are allowed to read or affiliate with.

        Thanks for noticing I'm evil. I'll go make a nice blood sacrifice to my effigy of Satan by eating another baby.

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      • luthis@lemmy.nz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s sarcasm. I upvoted them because I would have said something similar to highlight the absurdity of any argument against defederating with Threads.

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      • Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        We should have rules against turfing like this in the community, and remove or ban people suspected of it. I get the benefits of having a neutral place but at the same time we don’t allow advertising here so why should suspected astroturfing be any different.

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    • Deceptichum@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Then get fucked?

      Meta are largely responsible for the current state of affairs right now. Nearly every current war, genocide, fake news, and more can be tied back to Meta.

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      • BaroqueInMind@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Are you seriously simplifying all current conflicts caused down to simply social media? So if we completely remove all social media, humanity instantly becomes the utopian society from science fiction. STFU with this stupidity you ignorant child.

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    • Dieinahole@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The fuck is wrong with you?

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    • sour@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      ._.

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• squiblet@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m sure there will be instances that remain federated with them, and you can join those… or just join Threadstagram.

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  • PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is what I’m thinking. I don’t understand why people fled from the corporate internet only to be excited to go back to them.

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    • FaceDeer@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The corporate internet is adopting an open protocol. I find that to be exciting. It's not us "going back" to the corporate internet, it's the corporate internet coming to us.

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      • dezmd@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        All of the corporate internet adopted oprn protocols in the first place. Expand your limited view and increase your awareness of the history of the networks as they evolved before Google, Microsoft, and Apple were beginning and end of tech. We got to now with open protocols. Now everything is being walled up by DRM since theyve managed to preintegrate it in all of the hardware across the board before the open protocols even come into play.

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    • xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Defederating with Threads is a great way to make people “go back to them”, so I’m not sure what your point is.

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• sour@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  move to other instance

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  • BaroqueInMind@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Or build my own, which is great to have as a contingency.

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• Sanyanov@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  When you fuck over people with their freedoms, you don’t deserve the freedom to be extended to you.

  It’s the same as paradox of tolerance. You shouldn’t be tolerant to intolerance, and you shouldn’t give freedom to those who want to strip it away from you.

  That’s like freedom 101.

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• Zorque@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  So... admins aren't free to choose? Why are you trying to take away admins freedom of choice? Sounds kind of authoritarian to me.

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  • Chozo@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If you're self-hosting a personal instance, do whatever you want.

    But if you're hosting a community for other people, you should consider what they want. That's the responsibility of a leader.

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    • Zorque@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That's the beauty of the fediverse, if the instance you're on isn't doing what you want, you can move to another one. Or create your own.

      I'd say that's a pretty clear indicator of the popularity of decisions. Saying "No, you can't do that, cause I don't want that" is putting your desires above the desires of others.

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      • BaroqueInMind@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        This is why I love federated communities; the freedom of choice is great to have.

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• ttmrichter@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Sign up on Threads if you want Threads content. Fucking duh.

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• theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You can spin up your own server… That’s what the fediverse is.

  The freedom to do whatever you want as an admin, and the freedom of choosing another server where you’ll still be part of the network

  Meta/Facebook threatens this, because their user base dwarfs the rest of the fediverse. They’re also running their own closed source server code… They can gatekeep their own federation

  I would love it if companies joined the fediverse, but like, by making instances. Maybe even use it for their internal Intranet. Maybe they could add federation compatible APIs to their existing software

  I don’t want a massive social network company to use their position to make a new social network…

  Federation is like Bitcoin or Tor - it’s decentralized, until one org becomes too large… At that point, they can control the network in countless ways

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