I’m sure there will be instances that remain federated with them, and you can join those… or just join Threadstagram.
How am I supposed to do that when people like you are encouraging admins to defederate which removes any semblance of freedom of choice that you are fucking trying to imply we act upon?
squiblet@kbin.social 8 months ago
PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 8 months ago
This is what I’m thinking. I don’t understand why people fled from the corporate internet only to be excited to go back to them.
FaceDeer@kbin.social 8 months ago
The corporate internet is adopting an open protocol. I find that to be exciting. It's not us "going back" to the corporate internet, it's the corporate internet coming to us.
dezmd@lemmy.world 8 months ago
All of the corporate internet adopted oprn protocols in the first place. Expand your limited view and increase your awareness of the history of the networks as they evolved before Google, Microsoft, and Apple were beginning and end of tech. We got to now with open protocols. Now everything is being walled up by DRM since theyve managed to preintegrate it in all of the hardware across the board before the open protocols even come into play.
xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
Defederating with Threads is a great way to make people “go back to them”, so I’m not sure what your point is.
sour@kbin.social 8 months ago
move to other instance
BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 8 months ago
Or build my own, which is great to have as a contingency.
Sanyanov@lemmy.world 8 months ago
When you fuck over people with their freedoms, you don’t deserve the freedom to be extended to you.
It’s the same as paradox of tolerance. You shouldn’t be tolerant to intolerance, and you shouldn’t give freedom to those who want to strip it away from you.
That’s like freedom 101.
Zorque@kbin.social 8 months ago
So... admins aren't free to choose? Why are you trying to take away admins freedom of choice? Sounds kind of authoritarian to me.
Chozo@kbin.social 8 months ago
If you're self-hosting a personal instance, do whatever you want.
But if you're hosting a community for other people, you should consider what they want. That's the responsibility of a leader.
Zorque@kbin.social 8 months ago
That's the beauty of the fediverse, if the instance you're on isn't doing what you want, you can move to another one. Or create your own.
I'd say that's a pretty clear indicator of the popularity of decisions. Saying "No, you can't do that, cause I don't want that" is putting your desires above the desires of others.
BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 8 months ago
This is why I love federated communities; the freedom of choice is great to have.
ttmrichter@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Sign up on Threads if you want Threads content. Fucking duh.
theneverfox@pawb.social 8 months ago
You can spin up your own server… That’s what the fediverse is.
The freedom to do whatever you want as an admin, and the freedom of choosing another server where you’ll still be part of the network
Meta/Facebook threatens this, because their user base dwarfs the rest of the fediverse. They’re also running their own closed source server code… They can gatekeep their own federation
I would love it if companies joined the fediverse, but like, by making instances. Maybe even use it for their internal Intranet. Maybe they could add federation compatible APIs to their existing software
I don’t want a massive social network company to use their position to make a new social network…
Federation is like Bitcoin or Tor - it’s decentralized, until one org becomes too large… At that point, they can control the network in countless ways
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
They’re a multinational corporation, they don’t need us to host their shit for you to be able to read a goddamn article and learn something.
If you don’t yet understand that they’re evil that’s on you.
BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 8 months ago
What if I don't care if they're evil?
Zorque@kbin.social 8 months ago
Then feel free to go to threads or somewhere that does federate with them. You don't have to stay on a particular instance if they don't federate with something you want to engage with.
That's your freedom of choice.
BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 8 months ago
There is no plan for kbin to defederate with Threads, which is why I'm here you dolt. Maybe you should leave.
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
Then you’re evil. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Go ahead, be evil. It is certainly your right.
TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I’ve noticed a lot of turfing on all of these threadsfed posts. It’s becoming more and more. People just need to get a threads account if it’s so important to them.
BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 8 months ago
Thanks, it is my prerogative.
This is the point of the freedom of federated communities: we can read whatever the fuck we want from wherever the fuck we want without having authoritarian censor-heavy limp-wrist adult-baby moderators and corporate fascists determining what we are allowed to read or affiliate with.
Thanks for noticing I'm evil. I'll go make a nice blood sacrifice to my effigy of Satan by eating another baby.
luthis@lemmy.nz 8 months ago
It’s sarcasm. I upvoted them because I would have said something similar to highlight the absurdity of any argument against defederating with Threads.
Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 8 months ago
We should have rules against turfing like this in the community, and remove or ban people suspected of it. I get the benefits of having a neutral place but at the same time we don’t allow advertising here so why should suspected astroturfing be any different.
Deceptichum@kbin.social 8 months ago
Then get fucked?
Meta are largely responsible for the current state of affairs right now. Nearly every current war, genocide, fake news, and more can be tied back to Meta.
BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 8 months ago
Are you seriously simplifying all current conflicts caused down to simply social media? So if we completely remove all social media, humanity instantly becomes the utopian society from science fiction. STFU with this stupidity you ignorant child.
Dieinahole@kbin.social 8 months ago
The fuck is wrong with you?
sour@kbin.social 8 months ago
._.