Comment on Dear server admins, please defederate threads.net. Dear users, ask your server admin to defederate threads.net.

• BaroqueInMind@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  How am I supposed to do that when people like you are encouraging admins to defederate which removes any semblance of freedom of choice that you are fucking trying to imply we act upon?

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  • Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They’re a multinational corporation, they don’t need us to host their shit for you to be able to read a goddamn article and learn something.

    If you don’t yet understand that they’re evil that’s on you.

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    • BaroqueInMind@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What if I don't care if they're evil?

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      • Zorque@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Then feel free to go to threads or somewhere that does federate with them. You don't have to stay on a particular instance if they don't federate with something you want to engage with.

        That's your freedom of choice.

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      • Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Then you’re evil. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

        Go ahead, be evil. It is certainly your right.

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      • Deceptichum@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Then get fucked?

        Meta are largely responsible for the current state of affairs right now. Nearly every current war, genocide, fake news, and more can be tied back to Meta.

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      • Dieinahole@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The fuck is wrong with you?

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      • sour@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        ._.

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  • squiblet@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m sure there will be instances that remain federated with them, and you can join those… or just join Threadstagram.

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    • PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is what I’m thinking. I don’t understand why people fled from the corporate internet only to be excited to go back to them.

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      • FaceDeer@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The corporate internet is adopting an open protocol. I find that to be exciting. It's not us "going back" to the corporate internet, it's the corporate internet coming to us.

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      • xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Defederating with Threads is a great way to make people “go back to them”, so I’m not sure what your point is.

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  • sour@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    move to other instance

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    • BaroqueInMind@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Or build my own, which is great to have as a contingency.

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  • Sanyanov@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    When you fuck over people with their freedoms, you don’t deserve the freedom to be extended to you.

    It’s the same as paradox of tolerance. You shouldn’t be tolerant to intolerance, and you shouldn’t give freedom to those who want to strip it away from you.

    That’s like freedom 101.

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  • Zorque@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So... admins aren't free to choose? Why are you trying to take away admins freedom of choice? Sounds kind of authoritarian to me.

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    • Chozo@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you're self-hosting a personal instance, do whatever you want.

      But if you're hosting a community for other people, you should consider what they want. That's the responsibility of a leader.

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      • Zorque@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That's the beauty of the fediverse, if the instance you're on isn't doing what you want, you can move to another one. Or create your own.

        I'd say that's a pretty clear indicator of the popularity of decisions. Saying "No, you can't do that, cause I don't want that" is putting your desires above the desires of others.

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  • ttmrichter@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sign up on Threads if you want Threads content. Fucking duh.

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  • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You can spin up your own server… That’s what the fediverse is.

    The freedom to do whatever you want as an admin, and the freedom of choosing another server where you’ll still be part of the network

    Meta/Facebook threatens this, because their user base dwarfs the rest of the fediverse. They’re also running their own closed source server code… They can gatekeep their own federation

    I would love it if companies joined the fediverse, but like, by making instances. Maybe even use it for their internal Intranet. Maybe they could add federation compatible APIs to their existing software

    I don’t want a massive social network company to use their position to make a new social network…

    Federation is like Bitcoin or Tor - it’s decentralized, until one org becomes too large… At that point, they can control the network in countless ways

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