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Comment on Rule 2 Clarifications and New Rule proposal I’ve gotten through (I believe) a

I disagree that it would be the same than no rule at all, in my opinion that gives a pretty clear position on what’s allowed and what’s not without setting any strict limits so there’s some room for interpretation for community/mods to act.

Maybe rephrasing a bit helps: “This community is not an advertising platform. Self promotion is allowed only from active members of this community. Excessive promotion will result on post removals and/or ban from the community.”

What I’m afraid is that if there’s a strict rule then someone will argue that “only 9,87% of my posts are promotion, I don’t deserve a ban” even the rest of their content has little to no value for the conversation. And, since it’ll be a rule for the community, I personally think it should apply as it’s written, so it should have some kind of option to weed out smartasses trying to game the system in place.

But I’m not likely to promote anything around here, so for me it doesn’t really matter, just trowing out my thoughts about the matter.

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JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Would spamming low effort comments to fill a quota then fall under the spam bit, not necessarily self promotion bit? It would be quite obvious and from what was written in the post, moderators have more hand-wavy freedom to decide what is spam.

I have no dog in this fight either since all of my projects are open hardware so nobody cares anyway because it would cost money to build it and test it out 😂

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- curbstickle@anarchist.nexus ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  
  Would spamming low effort comments to fill a quota then fall under the spam bit, not necessarily self promotion bit?
  
  Yup! Especially if they get reported for suddenly blasting out low effort comments which would put them on “mod radar” as it were.
  
  I have no dog in this fight either since all of my projects are open hardware so nobody cares anyway because it would cost money to build it and test it out 😂
  
  I dunno, plenty of us do stupid things with our money to try out something we want….
  
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- IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  
  Would spamming low effort comments to fill a quota then fall under the spam bit, not necessarily self promotion bit?
  
  Possibly, but there’s equally gray area that what counts as low effort spamming and what actually contributes to the conversation. For example I’ve replied to comments “I’m using X to do Y” with “I’m using X too and I’m happy with it” to give an opinion to possible solutions. That kind of comments are easy enough to throw out and, if the “10% rule” is interpreted strictly, it isn’t really obvious if they should be considered as “improving your ratio” or as a part of actual conversation.
  
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curbstickle@anarchist.nexus ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

I disagree that it would be the same than no rule at all

None of the posts that people have been complaining about were repeat posts.

It absolutely would be no different than no rule at all.

Self promotion is allowed only from active members of this community.

Now define active - how I did it was set a participation goal. How are you defining it here to make it a fair rule to be applied?

What I’m afraid is that if there’s a strict rule then someone will argue that “only 9,87% of my posts are promotion, I don’t deserve a ban”

If someone is commenting and posting regularly enough to get a percentage like that, no one would even need to do the math to see participation for it to be an approvable post. And there is no ban here, just post removal.

Its about the people (or maybe bots) posting about a product in 9 posts, and 9 out of 10 comments, not the person who has a promo post in 11 out of 100 posts.

so it should have some kind of option to weed out smartasses trying to game the system in place.

Spammy comments get yoinked or (if made elsewhere) noted as not actually participating with the self promo post removal.

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