I dont understand. What is your point? Is it that having an extra 1.8 million barrels burned is good? Is it that Power Plant + ICE cars is cleaner than Power Plant - ICE cars? Hiw is it that you people keep getting hopping mad every time progress is made? What do you gain? Why do your feefees get hurt? What is the big “gotcha” that you keep trying to make?
Comment on 1.8 Million Barrels of Oil a Day Avoided from Electric Vehicles
FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 6 months ago
How the fuck do you people think these electric vehicles are powered?
IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 6 months ago
sugartits@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Don’t bother. Reading, logic and facts are not their strong point.
As you’ve seen they just lie and say something back which you clearly didn’t mean and continue to live in the ignorance bubble they have created for themselves.
FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It does no good to try to explain anyway. When you explain that mining all the shit that goes into making the batteries for these cars, it completely offsets whatever exaggerated gain they make. Not only that, but the incredible human cost as well. But you just go ahead and feel good about yourself and your shitty “green” cars.
IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Sounds like you need to go huff some exhaust
FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Telling someone to go kill themselves… stay classy Lemmy.
sugartits@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Electricity usually.
In all seriousness, even if the electricity comes from burning fossil fuels, that’s still preferable to burning them locally via internal combustion in a car’s engine.
The pollution is one place, so is easier to manage/capture and a power plant is much more efficient than your car can hope to be, actually reducing overall usage and pollution for the same energy output.
FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 6 months ago
oh so pollution is ok as long as it’s not in your backyard and happening in a confined locale… got it.
sugartits@lemmy.world 6 months ago
No dumbass, that’s very clearly not what I said.
If the pollution is being produced in one area then we can actually capture and reduce the overall level of pollution which is produced.
However, if we continue to use ICE cars then pollution will be scattered all over the place and there will be more of it
Try thinking just a little bit before responding.
FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s VERY clearly exactly what you said and i quote… “The pollution is one place, so is easier to manage/capture”
If it’s so easy to capture why care if we’re burning coal or natural gas? just capture it. just control it. it’s so easy right? how is the burning of fossil fuels even “captured” at a rate that is even viable?
MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Magic 🧝♂️
FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 6 months ago
That’s the way most people look at it.
formergijoe@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Depends where you are. In the US as a whole (so this varies heavily state-to-state), about 60% fossil fuels
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In France, about 6% fossil fuels.
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And it looks like even if the car is charged partly by fossil fuels the power generation for an electric car is cleaner than running a gas car in 95% of the world.
FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I appreciate you coming with the numbers.
Pirky@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I would have to dig to find it, but I remember reading years ago in a Car and Driver article that EV’s powered by even the dirtiest coal power plants will still return around 30 MPGe, which is better than most vehicles on the road today.
Granted that article was from before the Hummer EV, so I’m sure that number will have changed somewhat.
Tertle950@lemmy.basedcount.com 6 months ago
i would love for the United States to build more nuclear power plants and get this percentage down!