Comment on Politically-engaged Redditors tend to be more toxic -- even in non-political subreddits

• HelixDab2@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Tankies are far left authoritarians. The left/right spectrum refers primarily to economics.

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  • SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There are political traditions that see the left/right spectrum as a “How hierarchical do you think society should be” question, where being sexist or intolerant of LGBT would be inherently right-wing because they’re positions that are advocating for forms of social hierarchies, and therefore would claim that an anarcho-capitalist, even if still right-leaning, is much less right-leaning than a nazi.

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    • aidan@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      But where is the basis for defining it that way?

      I think a more clear and commonly excepted interpretation would be basically more collectivist vs more individualistic. The issue with that for some people is that would make Nazism left wing, and nobody wants the bad guys on their side.

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      • lolcatnip@reddthat.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It matches the historical usage of the terms. As far as I can tell the definition has barely changed in modern times; a lot of people have just tried to redefine them based on their own misunderstanding.

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  • SomethingBurger@jlai.lu ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Tankies aren’t leftists. They defend genocidal and authoritarian regimes, which are inherently right wing.

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    • aidan@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      which are inherently right wing.

      Why?

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    • HelixDab2@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Tankies are leftist because the oppose private property and favor the state controlling the means of production rather than individuals or corporations.

      You’re confusing authoritarian communism with social democracy and anarchism. Stalin was a leftist, he was also genocidal and authoritarian.

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  • lolcatnip@reddthat.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wrong.

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• aidan@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What does right wing mean to you?

  What about left wing?

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• Tertle950@lemmy.basedcount.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  congratulations on instigating a semantics argument

  definitions are SO fun to disagree over!

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• PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  no

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  • webadict@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Authoritarianism and enforced heirarchical structures (as well as support for such regimes) are very much a right-wing philosophy. They also espouse the same “both sides” philosophy that conservatives push (which is a justification for maintaining the status quo, and another right-wing position.)

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