Comment on Epic win: Jury decides Google has illegal monopoly in app store fight

vsh@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Tr0n1um@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Why? Steam has no monopoly. There are a lot of other stores.

  The Play Store is the default store on Android. I think this is why it’s a monopoly.

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  • vsh@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Companies are not forced to preinstall them by default.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I haven’t ever had a computer that has been pre-built that comes with steam pre-installed.

      I’ve had plenty to come with bloatware, but none of that bloatware has ever been Steam. And you know why? Because Valve doesn’t pay companies to pre install Steam.

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• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Valve forces other companies to have Steam installed by default on their PCs? And has shady background deals with various companies?

  Wow, TIL

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  • vsh@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Before jumping on the “TIL” bandwagon, maybe consider fact-checking and not just regurgitating baseless rumors. Steam dominates the gaming marketplace. They control a massive share of digital game distribution, making it a one-stop-shop for gamers.

    Steam’s the cool kid on the block, and everyone else should just pack up and go home. Monopoly vibes, man. /s

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    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ok…?

      Can you tell me how Valve forces steam to be installed on everyone’s PCs and bans the installation of other game stores? You still haven’t done that yet.

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      • vsh@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Following this logic all billions of devices coming with preinstalled google products contribute to their monopoly. Billions.

        And following this logic’s logic Steam is a monopoly because they have a massive library of games, easy to say they’re the gaming monopoly.

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• helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Steam has several competitors, they all just suck, most of all EGS.

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  • Rose@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Google made the same argument in this case, but Epic responded by saying that impairing the competition is sufficient to describe the behavior as unlawful. Like Google, Valve control the vast majority of the market, charge a fee that is way above the cost of service, and have rules that make the competitors less appealing. Like this one:

    In response to one inquiry from a game publisher, in another example, Valve explained: “We basically see any selling of the game on PC, Steam key or not, as a part of the same shared PC market- so even if you weren’t using Steam keys, we’d just choose to stop selling a game if it was always running discounts of 75% off on one store but 50% off on ours. . . .”

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    • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Google made the same argument in this case but Epic responded by saying that impairing the competition is sufficient to describe the behavior as unlawful.

      But Valve doesnt do anything to impair competition. Google owns and controls the operating system, require their store to be installed, and pay off other companies to be the default. Valve doesn’t do anything like that.

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  • MrSqueezles@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You mean like Play Store?

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    • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No, not even a little.

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      • MrSqueezles@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        What? Oh FFS. Context. Yes, Play Store has competitors, so yes absolutely a lot.

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  • vsh@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The landlord also has several competitors, but when he gets all the properties for himself and the rest gets almost nothing he’s a monopolist, no? Look what Microsoft and google and hundreds other companies did to become Monopoly.

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    • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      but when he gets all the properties for himself

      Then he has no competitors.

      Look what Microsoft and google and hundreds of other companies did to become Monopoly.

      What exactly did they do that Steam has also done?

      Steam does nothing to prevent others from competing, to my knowledge, other than just being the best at what they do.

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      • vsh@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If you’re thinking steam isn’t a monopoly then why is it nearly impossible to create a gaming platform that competes with these giants? If you can’t even enter the market because of ONE company, then something is very wrong.

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• Floshie@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You mean nuking the only major contriubutor who’s bringing games into linux ?

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  • vsh@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Linux is open source. Why don’t you find a new contributor? 😂

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    • Floshie@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Linux is open source, why won’t you do it yourself 😂😂😂

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      • vsh@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Oh you know. I’m more of a closed system person 🪟1️⃣1️⃣ = 😇

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• The_Cunt_of_Monte_Cristo@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Calm your tits Tim Sweeney.

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• echodot@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You don’t know what you’re talking about do you.

  Computers don’t come with steam automatically installed, do they? So it’s not in any actual sense of the word of monopoly.

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  • vsh@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Cool.

    One reason out of many…

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