Comment on Top 50 defederated instances

• Arelin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They pick one side and argue and justify away the crimes “their” Side has done

  That’s a heavy oversimplification of everything on there… I see the folks on grad being mad about bad decisions by China just the same; they just heavily scrutinize negative news for bias or misinfo, as people should do for everything.

  If you do scrutinize your news and sources, I think it’s only natural that you’d end up being very anti-west/imperialism, and far less anti-China, specially considering the grip western media and news have on the world. The two are just not equivalent at all.

  The People of Tibet might disagree there

  Here’s an example of that. The fact that ~90% of Tibetans can speak their cultural language compared to the ~8% of North Americans that can speak theirs means they’re just not comparable or equivalent. The only countries accusing China of such a fucked up crime like cultural repression are western ones with a political/economic interest for doing so. Muslim countries and the global south side with China on this and Xinjiang.

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  • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You don’t get it. I don’t compare. It is not that is worse than that. China attacked Tibet and conquered their Land. I don’t need to compare this to the US. I don’t care if Country XYZ says it was good. Evil is Evil is Evil. Pull yourself away from comparing. You don’t have to weigh Evil against each other.

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    • Arelin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      you are trying to compare this to the US and bring up other Countries and what they think

      Shouldn’t we look at different sources and scrutinize events and claims thoroughly? You seem to be thinking you’re being objective by taking a centrist position on these but this

      China invaded and occupied Tibet

      is a western claim, and exactly what the US and EU wants its citizens to think by drawing a false equivalence between them and their geopolitical rival. Tibet had a popular revolutionary party whose views were in line with the rest of China that wanted China’s help overthrowing the Dalai Lama, under whom slavery and serfdom was common in the region. Tibet is an autonomous region now.

      Hell, the Tibetan uprising against the Chinese government later on was organized by the CIA, and the US is open about it and even proud of it now. Here’s a book on that written by a US district judge and a journal by a poffessor on Tibetan studies. It’s similar to how the US overthrew the democratically elected Mosaddegh in Iran because his policies would benefit Iran instead of the US.

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      • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Again you feel the need to bring up the US. This is all you got, isn’t it? “Hey, Hey, don’t call out my Camp, look at the US. They are bad!”.

        You honestly believe everyone lies? Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, International Campaign for Tibet, Tibetan Centre for Human Rights and Democracy, the UN. All lie? But China tells the truth. You are so far gone it’s unbelievable. You question well documented facts, but you won’t believe that a regime that is notorious for lying won’t lie? You are waaaay too far gone that I, a random Person from the Internet, could ever convince you. I’m just going to block you, you are not worth arguing with any further. You have nothing of value to say I couldn’t read in a Chinese propaganda pamphlet.

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      • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Tibet had a popular revolutionary party whose views were in line with the rest of China that wanted China’s help overthrowing the Dalai Lama, under whom slavery and serfdom was common in the region.

        Yes Tibet was a theocratic slave state. But China still invaded and annexed them.

        Was the US invasion of Iraq justified because Saddam was a dictator? If we annexed Iraq and didn’t make them speak English it would be fine?

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      • Socsa@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        So are you saying that China didn’t abduct a child in an attempt to exterminate Tibetan culture?

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  • DessertStorms@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Amazing, it only took you 2 comments to land right on genocide denial, unprovoked.
    You're a tankie, defending other tankies, and tankies aren't communists, nor are you on the left, since you clearly aren't in support of freedom and equality for all, never mind the rest of it, just more of the same bullshit - authoritarians co opting leftist ideas and language to grab power. Tale as old as fucking time..

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    • Arelin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      genocide

      Jesus christ, you don’t seem to realize how much of a fucked up accusation that is. Even the US State Department, who would love to throw around any and all accusations at the their geopolitical rivals, says there’s no mass killings in China, probably because the US couldn’t cause one like they did in 1965 in Indonesia.

      Even if it’s not intentional, these kinds of thoughtless claims downplay actual mass killings like the one Israel is perpetrating against native Palestinians right now.

      far-rights co opting leftist language to grab power

      Hence why it’s important to scrutinize news, sources and claims, and not throw around baseless ones.

      I do think we need a democratically elected authority though, or you get corporations and billionaires steering the government to wage wars for profit from oil, materials etc. like what’s happening now with Israel.

      Perhaps one like Cuba, which is Socialist and has one of the most open democracies in the world. It has an unusually high percentage of women in the government compared to the rest of the world thanks to that; 53.22% now (U.S has 29.0%), and better LGBT rights than the US nowadays. Also free healthcare, and enough free high level education to provide Italy with doctors during the pandemic, despite the ongoing 60 year US embargo.

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      • EndlessApollo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        They’re being brainwashed and sterilized, if you don’t think that’s genocide you’re a dumbass and a piece of shit who wants them to die

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      • EndlessApollo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Also $20 says this person isn’t pro palestine or anti zionist, just pro Hamas and pro raping and murdering jews

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  • EndlessApollo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • Arelin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Very mature of you.

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