Comment on Fear of cheap Chinese EVs spurs automaker dash for affordable cars
AA5B@lemmy.world 11 months agoThe problem is you can’t efficiently electrify a vehicle designed for fossil fuels. The requirements differ too much.
Actually EV conversions were common before we got intentionally designed EVs and the original Tesla was built on a standard Lotus body and frame, but luckily we’re beyond that now.
You can still choose to electrify a vehicle now but you get poor performance and range, unbalanced handling, and pay way too much for a mediocre vehicle. It’s bot worth it
GBU_28@lemm.ee 11 months ago
They mean at the design/manufacturing level, not retrofitting.
They mean just creat a simple ev car with only the needed designs to house the battery, controller and electric motor(s).
They mean discard all ideas of “futuristic” interiors, techs, or anything. Just build a modest car with an electric powerplant and battery storage. Then stop.
Fire any designer who tells you AI could improve the product.
lolcatnip@reddthat.com 11 months ago
That would be pretty dumb. It’s entirely possible to use AI in the design and engineering phase without AI being in the product that’s delivered to the customer. It’s also entirely possible for AI to be used in areas like crash mitigation, improving the handling in poor road conditions, or optimizing charging speed to improve battery life. Those uses of AI are largely invisible but offer a tangible improvement to the vehicle without being what anyone would consider luxurious. Choosing to ignore a design option because it sounds like something trendy is a great way to design a product that’s a worse value for the money.
c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 11 months ago
AI in the vehicle, he means. Obviously ML models are useful for crash data, don’t be a pedant.
lolcatnip@reddthat.com 11 months ago
This is the internet.
eronth@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I mean, I interpreted it the way they seem to have as well. Not being a pedant, I literally just read it different.
GBU_28@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Ai is unnecessary in all those topics. Classical sensing, detection/ response algos are all sufficient.
An LLM or Siri is useless, which is what I’m saying to discard
AA5B@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Think this is the idea behind the GM Ultium platform (and probably others). They always held out “skateboard” as the goal, although I don’t know if that’s still a thing. Create essentially wheels and a plank that include all the power and drive components, modify to a small set of sizes, and crank them out by the millions. Then each car is a unique body and interior on top of the “skateboard”. As the platform gets to scale, you can drive the cost down, while still making unique cars on top of it - including low end cars