Comment on YouTube comment deletion is out of control, can't say anything anymore even when completely sensible. Is there a text format (alternate characters) that allows you to bypass detection?

• setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  My car is having a problem. I need a solution.

  What problem is it having?

  That is irrelevant.

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  • squiblet@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Or like

    “Does anyone know how to silently pick deadbolts?”

    “Uh, why do you need to do that? Is it your house?”

    “Look, I just need to know how to do it.”

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    • PlogLod@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So let’s take that example (and of course wanting to be able to comment completely normal things without them being deleted is not as extreme as trying to pick a lock, but close enough).

      What if the person wasn’t able to share exactly why they needed to pick a lock, but they gave you some information pointing to what it was, and asked you to trust that their intentions were pure and they weren’t doing anything wrong?

      Would you still refuse to help them?

      Obviously this is a hypothetical, and I gave given multiple examples already of the types of harmless comments that get deleted, but people still refuse to even consider the possibility of helping me.

      Inb4 downvotes, because that’s how this is going, downvote me for no reason without explaining why, or for reasons that make no sense.

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      • squiblet@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’d be pretty suspicious why they wouldn’t tell me the reason, actually, and an internet stranger asking me to trust that their intentions are pure isn’t very persuasive. You don’t seem like someone who would be outright abusive, though, and you have a fairly innocuous history on Lemmy from what I can see. I think one problem is that we don’t really know the answer to the question. Most people here would just not comment or stop going to YouTube rather than try to come up with some sneaky way to m4k3 comm!ent5 th4.t ev4d3 f.i.l t3r5.

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      • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Actually, I used to subscribe to r/lockpicking, and there were VERY strict rules about posting questions about a lock that was closed.

        I thought it was neat that I was able to pick my desk drawer at work with a paperclip, but my pic immediately got deleted because even though it was my desk, it “wasn’t my lock to pick”.

        So, the reality of your hypothetical situation is no, people should not and will not help you cheat the system, because we have no idea who you are or what you want to accomplish.

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    • PlogLod@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well that example actually makes sense. It demonstrates that you don’t necessarily need to know the specifics in order to help, you just want to know. What the commenter you were replying to was a completely disingenuous comparison.

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  • amio@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I can't believe you would ask them about their car like that, truly way over the line and you must be a terrible person, just because it's absolutely essential information gives you no right to go prying in their business like this, etc etc etc

    (as much as I hate "/s"... /s.)

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  • PlogLod@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is a false equivalency. I’ll try to spell it out clearly.

    I’m looking for a character format (a type of alternative text characters) that doesn’t get removed.

    It’s not necessary to know what content is being removed in order to suggest a character format that doesn’t get removed.

    So I don’t know why you’re so focused on trying to determine what the content is when it actually is irrelevant to the question I’m asking.

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    • Spotlight7573@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m pretty sure people are focused on what the content is because they have reservations about helping someone bypass filters to post stuff that may be offensive enough to be deleted in the first place.

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      • PlogLod@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Nothing I’m saying is offensive, and trust me, a lot of completely unoffensive and harmless comments are blocked, while very offensive content is allowed. It often makes no sense either, and I think the bots are literally broken. A quick Google search about this issue shows some people wanting to post admittedly offensive things, but other people who were trying to make completely innocuous comments and still having them get removed. And it’s really varied and inconsistent what gets deleted. I’m in the latter camp.

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      • PlogLod@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Well thank you for understanding what no one else seems to get, at least. I thought I was going insane.

        You don’t physically need to know what the content is, in order to suggest a text character that doesn’t get removed.

        People might have a reason why they don’t want to provide a text character that doesn’t get removed.

        But since I’ve stated that the content is unproblematic in any way, there should be no problem with providing one.

        Hopefully someone is willing and able to help.

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    • Zeppo@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not many possibilities, are there? People substitute letters with number or punctuation that look like the letters, use various homophones, or split up words with punctuation. Maybe you could try translating your comments to Greek or Romanian.

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      • PlogLod@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        These are creative solutions. I really appreciate you trying to answer when no one else would. But I’m probably not going to change each letter or word individually for everything I say (or translate to another language, which means most people can’t understand it) when I don’t even know what things are going to be removed for seemingly no reason. What I do currently is similar, if I notice that my comment has been removed, I usually try to rephrase it, split it up, and post it in different ways through trial and error.

        Sometimes I’ve noticed if my comment is simply longer than a few sentences (or a small invisible character limit, seemingly), it gets deleted. So truncating what I’m saying can work.

        But all of this is very difficult to do and never works consistently. I still get random comments deleted all the time.

        The desire for a text character format that doesn’t get removed by default is this: I would be able to type normally without having to worry about deletion. I would not say anything bad, because I don’t already. It would just mean that this faulty comment deletion would no longer prevent me from using the comments section.

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  • PlogLod@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I said what the problem is. Comments are getting deleted. And I’m specifically asking if anyone knows a character format that doesn’t get removed. You don’t need to know what content is being removed in order to suggest a character format. I don’t know why you’re not understanding this.

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    • Zeppo@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t think the rest of us have had this problem to the extent that we know a special character format.

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      • PlogLod@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Good point. I guess it was worth a try. Someone might know. There were people on Reddit who knew. I guess I could try asking on the YouTube community here (if there is one), but judging by the toxic replies here, that could be a shitshow.

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