PlogLod
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Why do you choose to assume the worst and not believe people? I didn’t say 50% of my comments are problematic and worth deleting. I said 50% GET deleted unfairly. You are putting supreme faith in the YouTube moderation system and assuming that it doesn’t make mistakes when it clearly does. Unlike other people’s comments which deserve to be removed but aren’t, nothing I’m saying is problematic at all.
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I did not say 50% of my comments are questionable. I said about that many get removed for no reason despite being harmless. It’s you who is making negative assumptions about a human being and choosing to put all your faith in technology and AI to work correctly when it clearly doesn’t. And no, again, it’s not channels. Channel owners have confirmed to me they’re not deleting my comments and they don’t know why they get removed.
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And again you’re assuming I’m posting “conspiracy shit” and leaving no room for the possibility that YouTube’s comment deletion system is completely broken in some cases. There’s no reason to remove the completely normal harmless comments I’m posting. Having this much faith in technology and AI to do its job properly is really concerning more than anything tbh.
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It’s not channel specific at all. I know creators personally who have said they’re not doing anything to my comments and they have no idea why my comments get removed.
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How is trying to explain that it happens on random comments and doing my best to produce examples of “average” “random” comments being evasive? “Watching this channel has been my turning point.” “It’s so interesting how frogs move like that”. If you don’t believe me, whatever. It’s literally just random stuff. If I change some words, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t.
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I literally answered to the best of my ability. I’m so sick of repeating myself by now to so many different people. Please read my other comments for more information. If I say completely basic, normal, random things like “Toshiba TVs suck” or “I love it when people dance like their legs are crazy straws” or whatever random stuff it gets deleted. Completely random things with no apparent logic to it. See other comments for more info. I don’t know how else I can explain it. It just happens on random comments.
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Your comment assumes that something would have to be crappy for YouTube delete it. You leave no room for the possibility that the comment deletion system is broken and can often delete completely harmless comments for no reason, I guess for some people more than others for no discernable reason. I’m considering the possibility of it being location-based as well. Maybe I should use a VPN, or not use a VPN. Or I don’t know. But you are just so confident and sure of things and making a lot of assumptions which are false.
Don’t let this comment go un-downvoted! Don’t think, just downvote quiiick!
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Since your example isn’t accurate, I’ll modify it to make a more apt analogy.
Cust: I am looking for a passage of text from an obscure book. Clerk: Ok, what is the text you are looking for. Cust: It’s called “Ancient Unholy Incantations” Clerk: oh, why do you want that book? Why why why? Cust: I can’t say. Clerk: Tell me! Or else I can’t help. I physically can’t. It’s not that I don’t want to because I don’t believe your intentions are good and need convincing. Something would prevent me from doing so (can’t say what). Cust: Ok well it’s sort of for a lot of different purposes, like just random stuff, maybe for making my dog happy, or for helping grow my garden. Clerk: No, no, tell me more! What is it? You haven’t given me enough information. I can’t help you! Cust: Are you sure it’s not just that you don’t want to because you assume my intentions are bad? Clerk: You are alt-right!!!
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I thought you said cunt, lol.
Sorry I’ve kind of given up trying to get people to believe me or help me.
There’s no reason you can’t theoretically provide a text character that allows to bypass random YouTube comments deletion, unless you don’t want to.
And like I said, it’s lots of random comments. I could say something like “Honda is the best car” and it gets deleted. Or, “Wow this guy must be taking creatine”. I’m using random examples because that’s what it is. Literally just random stuff.
Maybe you’ll empathise, maybe not. Be sure to downvote my comment though ;)
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Well gee, thanks. I mean you literally know nothing about me except that I’m experiencing a weird technical issue on YouTube where a lot of comments I make get deleted when they’re completely harmless. I would never say something as mean as what you just said for example. I don’t assume bad things about other people. And I don’t say anything problematic. I have solid ethics and I don’t even say anything controversial on YouTube. I’m only saying this to defend myself against accusations and negative assumptions. No one believes me. What if no one believes you? I would believe you. One day, you might be in a similar situation. If I’m there, I’ll believe you. Sorry it’s been a long day.
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Are you saying that’s what I’m doing? I honestly can’t tell. If you think that no matter what I say, I’m assumed to be a troll anyway, then I guess I can’t win. I did my best to clarify. My situation makes sense to me. I mean, I don’t understand what’s happening to me with the YouTube comments and why, or what the criteria is. But if I saw someone saying what I’m saying I think I would believe them. Saying you don’t know whether you believe me or not is one thing, and that kind of hurts. It’s more hurtful that people are 100% not believing me and assuming the worst of me. Do you actually think I’m a troll? Even now? Man this is crazy.
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It’s absolutely technology. It’s not the creators, they’ve confirmed to me that they’re not doing it. It’s an instant deletion thing, and it’s just random comments that mention different products or things, or often not even that, just basic sentences. I never know when it’s going to do it or not. For example any of the comments in this thread could easily be deleted for me. It’s completely nonsensical, a broken system. How do you have so much faith in technology? Also, maybe it has other influence like YouTube or governments or vested interests, who knows. I’m not going to go conspiracy mode because I don’t think like that. There could be some kind of criteria to it that I don’t understand, but it’s acting through auto-moderation bots on YouTube. I don’t know why. I don’t have the answers, that’s why I’m asking for help.
- Comment on YouTube comment deletion is out of control, can't say anything anymore even when completely sensible. Is there a text format (alternate characters) that allows you to bypass detection? 11 months ago:
Do you need to have been in a situation yourself in order to empathise with it?
Furthermore, must you understand something completely in order to provide help?
Look this is a free platform and I appreciate people even commented on this post. But these comments assuming the worst of me and not believing me that my comments are harmless and refusing to even want to help are hurtful. It makes me feel like, what if someone was being attacked by AI in a really crazy way. Not that this is that. But, have mercy on that person. Because if people choose to trust in technology more than human beings, I think we’re honestly doomed.
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I don’t know why you’re saying that you need to know what things I’ve commented in order to help me find an alternate character text that doesnt get deleted. It’s literally random innocuous things. Like for example I could say “Maybe one day electric cars will be faster than gas powered cars” and it gets deleted.
Have you ever been in a situation where no one believes you even though you know you’re innocent? That’s what this is for me.
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As I addressed in other comments, it’s not creators. It’s YouTube. Creators have confirmed to me they’re not deleting comments. And by YouTube, I mean some kind of automated system because it’s insta-removal for various random things I say. Like literally harmless things. What you just said could be deleted if you were me, for example. I don’t know why. People won’t believe me and that sucks. I wish someone would believe me. Well, a few people did.
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Yeah, that’s fine. If they want to delete comments that are actually problematic, I don’t have a problem with that. But the system is actually broken. Nothing I’m saying is problematic. I’ll give you an example. What you just said now could easily be deleted. What I’m saying right now could easily be deleted. Anything I say could be deleted for no apparent reason when there’s nothing wrong with it at all. That’s what people aren’t understanding.
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I don’t know what concern troll is. But I’ve been accused of being a troll before which sucks. I’m not a troll.
I’ve given other examples already like how I can’t mention brand names in any context and can’t say anything about certain governments, corporations or industries regardless of the content. Like literally anything about them, including positive or neutral.
I also struggle to think of examples because it happens so often and I’m not recording them and they’re just random things I wouldn’t remember.
Beyond that I shouldn’t have to say what gets deleted and I actually can’t think of examples because I’ve already forgotten about them. It’s usually completely random things.
Also, the question is about alternate text characters. Some people were kind enough to understand this does happen to some people for no discernable reason, and either were empathetic but couldn’t help, while others actually gave some nice tips. Most people took this post as an opportunity to grill me about what the content was and assume the worst about me in a number of ways and insult me.
It’s really whatever. This is a known problem if you look into it online and there’s even someone else in this comments section who said they experienced the same issues.
Maybe it will become more well known and people will understand that these systems do not always work properly and often delete some people’s comments in some cases for no apparent reason, with mixed results. Assuming that they always work properly is just an illogical stance in my opinion. Technology is fallible, and especially AI and auto-moderation.
This honestly reminds me of something. Before butt-dialing became well known, when it happened sometimes people would literally refuse to believe that the phone had dialled accidentally in their pocket. They thought that such an issue could never occur. Well, it did. And this is a real problem I’m talking about, and I am honestly innocent. I could easily be the same person as you, and if you were in this situation, I would be empathetic to it and I wouldn’t demand to know what you were commenting (especially when it’s literally lots of random things in various scenarios). If someone told me that they were having a technical issue like this, I would believe them. We need to believe each other more, I think. All this accusation of falsehood. I understand trolls exist, but we’ve all lost our minds if we assume everyone is a troll all the time. Tbh.
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It’s okay to be not be able to talk and have your lips stitched up at all times… just kidding. But that’s what it feels like. If I have something I want to say, I should be able to say it (presuming it’s not problematic in any way, which it’s not). People here are honestly really hard to understand, assuming that I must be saying something bad when I’m literally not. All the assumptions people make. Imagine if you were in that situation, you see a video, you want to say something innocuous, bam, deleted. Try again, say something different, bam. Censored for no reason. It’s dystopian, and it makes it worse that other people can say things but some people can’t. I can say certain random things but not others, with no rhyme or reason to it.
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Exactly, everyone uses it. Otherwise I would 100% be using Oddysee or something like that. The problem is all the main content is on YouTube so I want to be able to comment on YouTube.
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I already addressed this here in another comment right after I posted because I know people always claim this lol (based on what I saw of Reddit threads discussing this issue). No it’s not the creators, it’s 100% YouTube bots. There’s a slight possibility it could be people working for YouTube in certain cases on popular channels but mostly it’s definitely bots. I often know the creators personally and they’ve confirmed they’re not deleting them and they don’t know why it happens.
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It happens instantly and I often know the creators personally, and they confirm that they’re not deleting them. It’s bots 100%. It also bypasses when I write things in different ways, with no real “rhyme or reason” to it.
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Thank you.
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Good point. I guess it was worth a try. Someone might know. There were people on Reddit who knew. I guess I could try asking on the YouTube community here (if there is one), but judging by the toxic replies here, that could be a shitshow.
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These are creative solutions. I really appreciate you trying to answer when no one else would. But I’m probably not going to change each letter or word individually for everything I say (or translate to another language, which means most people can’t understand it) when I don’t even know what things are going to be removed for seemingly no reason. What I do currently is similar, if I notice that my comment has been removed, I usually try to rephrase it, split it up, and post it in different ways through trial and error.
Sometimes I’ve noticed if my comment is simply longer than a few sentences (or a small invisible character limit, seemingly), it gets deleted. So truncating what I’m saying can work.
But all of this is very difficult to do and never works consistently. I still get random comments deleted all the time.
The desire for a text character format that doesn’t get removed by default is this: I would be able to type normally without having to worry about deletion. I would not say anything bad, because I don’t already. It would just mean that this faulty comment deletion would no longer prevent me from using the comments section.
- Comment on YouTube comment deletion is out of control, can't say anything anymore even when completely sensible. Is there a text format (alternate characters) that allows you to bypass detection? 11 months ago:
So let’s take that example (and of course wanting to be able to comment completely normal things without them being deleted is not as extreme as trying to pick a lock, but close enough).
What if the person wasn’t able to share exactly why they needed to pick a lock, but they gave you some information pointing to what it was, and asked you to trust that their intentions were pure and they weren’t doing anything wrong?
Would you still refuse to help them?
Obviously this is a hypothetical, and I gave given multiple examples already of the types of harmless comments that get deleted, but people still refuse to even consider the possibility of helping me.
Inb4 downvotes, because that’s how this is going, downvote me for no reason without explaining why, or for reasons that make no sense.
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Well that example actually makes sense. It demonstrates that you don’t necessarily need to know the specifics in order to help, you just want to know. What the commenter you were replying to was a completely disingenuous comparison.
- Comment on YouTube comment deletion is out of control, can't say anything anymore even when completely sensible. Is there a text format (alternate characters) that allows you to bypass detection? 11 months ago:
No reason for downvoting. Muh muh hivemind.
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See what I mean? I provide examples and no one cares. Just more downvotes. Just really toxic behaviour here. You are probably the ones who deserve to have your comments deleted more than me.
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Trust me, you are rare as a more reasonable person on this platform by the fact that what you’re saying actually makes sense and is somewhat kind natured. So I appreciate that at least.
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Also, everyone knows people on Reddit (and the culture here is basically the same as Reddit) are really rude and unempathetic to anyone asking for help. So this isn’t limited to this thread at all.