it’s an invasion of privacy to use someone’s likeness against their will
Is it? Usually photography in public places is legal.
Comment on ‘Nudify’ Apps That Use AI to ‘Undress’ Women in Photos Are Soaring in Popularity
originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 11 months ago
That the chat is full of people defending this is disgusting. This is different than cutting someone’s face out of a photo and pasting it on a magazine nude or imagining a person naked. Deepfakes can be difficult to tell apart from real media. This enables the spread of nonconsensual pornography that an arbitrary person cannot necessarily tell is fake. Even if it were it’s an invasion of privacy to use someone’s likeness against their will without their consent for the purposes you’re using it for.
The fediverse’s high expectations for privacy seem to go right out the window when violating it gets their dick hard. We should be better.
RobotToaster@mander.xyz 11 months ago
originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Legal and moral are not the same thing.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Do you also think it’s immoral to do street photography?
originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I think it’s immoral to do street photography to sexualize the subjects of your photographs. I think it’s immoral to then turn that into pornography of them without their consent. I think it’s weird you don’t.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Well yeah if you share the photo it’s messed up. Is anyone saying otherwise?
originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 11 months ago
So it’s fine to violate someone’s privacy so long as you don’t share it? Weird morals you got there.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Am I violating privacy by picturing women naked?
Because if it’s as cut and dried as you say, then the answer must be yes, and that’s flat out dumb
originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Sexualizing strangers isn’t a right or moral afforded to you by society. That’s a braindead take. You can ABSOLUTELY violate someone’s privacy by coding an image of them. That’s both a moral and legal question with an answer.
Your comment is a self report.
chitak166@lemmy.world 11 months ago
So it’s okay to make nudes of someone as long as they aren’t realistic?
Where is the line drawn between being too real and not real enough?
originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 11 months ago
If you found out that someone had made a bunch of art of you naked you’d probably think that was weird. I’d argue you shouldn’t do that without consent. Draw lines wherever you think is best.
chitak166@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’d definitely think it was weird! And probably not hang out with them anymore (unless it was really good!)
But I don’t think there should be a law against them doing that. I can moderate them myself by avoiding them and my friends will follow suit.
At that point, all they have are nudes of me that nobody I care about will pay attention to. It’s a good litmus test for shitbags!
echo64@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This is about producing convincing nude reproductions of other people, however. It has a very different psychological impact.
This technology allows someone to make pornography of anyone else and spread that pornography on the internet. It can cause massive distress, trauma, and relationship issues and impact peoples careers.
Your freedom to make nude ai images of other people is not worth that. I don’t understand why anyone would think it was okay.
originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Agreed, but legal and moral are different. The law isn’t really about right and wrong per se.
PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 11 months ago
People need better online safety education. Why TF are people even posting public pictures of themselves?
echo64@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Are you really going with “it’s the women’s fault for existing”?
PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Im saying, as a man, I would never post my image and identity online.
Grangle1@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Unfortunately sounds like par for the course for the internet. I’ve come to believe that the internet has its good uses for things like commerce and general information streaming, but by and large it’s bringing out the worst in humanity far more than the best. Or it’s all run by ultra-horny psychopathic teenagers pretending to be adults yet living on a philosophy of “I’m 13 and this is deep” logic.
originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I dunno why I am perpetually surprised about this though. This is such a cut and dry moral area and the people who say it isn’t are so clearly telling on themselves it’s kind of shocking, but I guess it shouldn’t be
PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I think the distinction is that half of the thread is treating it as a moral issue, and half of it is treating it as a legal issue. Legally, there’s nothing wrong here.
ABCDE@lemmy.world 11 months ago
What are you arguing with here? No one is saying that. Stop looking for trouble, it’s weird.
Guest_User@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Very much “old man yells at clouds” vibe from them
jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev 11 months ago
Nah tbh there are a few comments on this post asking for links to the tools
originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 11 months ago
They were when the post was new. Things change as more people come in.
ABCDE@lemmy.world 11 months ago
No there weren’t.
originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Anyone reading through comments and timestamps can tell there were but you die on this hill if you want. This conversation overall is hilarious
echo64@lemmy.world 11 months ago
lemmy.world/comment/5895283
ABCDE@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Great, a joke post. That’s what you’re angry about?
echo64@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m a different person, i’m just giving you a link