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tabular@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I was a club and had to open an account to open a tab, they asked me my government number ID, pretty standard, but then they started asking for phone number, age, email, Instagram account and I was like wtf, I just want a bottle of water!

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  • Senshi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Where do you live that providing your government id to a business is standard? In Germany, the only one outside of a judge to be allowed to request that is law enforcement ( even then only with proper cause ). Of course, some businesses are legally required to request and process your ID number ( e.g. when booking international flights, medical insurance companies etc), but these are under tight federal control and supervision to ensure data safety.

    Age verification sometimes is a thing for purchasing 18+ things ( media or drugs like alcohol & smokes), but even then businesses will only ever perform a visual check of the date of birth on your ID. Technically they can never demand to hold your ID, not even for a short time just to better read the date. You only have to show them your ID. And actually recording and/or storing any of that information would be insanely illegal.

    Germany / Europe might have its issues, but we at least try and take our freedom and data privacy serious. I would never dream of handing my ID to a generic business like a club for anything more than the age check.

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    • driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s in Brazil and is pretty standard. There’s different IDs here, the most common one is called CPF and is used for financial transactions, is the number that identify you with the tax agency. In some things you can denied it, like in the pharmacy, but in other ones not, like buying a TV or car.

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      • Senshi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Interesting, will have to read up on how that works in Brazil. We also have a separate tax id here ( which is also used for pension and social security ), but that one is even more secure/private than the passport ID. We only provide that to our chosen medical insurance provider ( bc they need to register it with the ministry of finance ) as well as employers ( because 50% of the insurance has to be paid by employers).

        It’s explicitly not allowed and intended for generic identification purposes, because it makes it too accessible for identity theft and associated scams.

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  • SaltySalamander@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    they asked me my government number ID, pretty standard

    How very dystopian.

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    • pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If you’re ordering alcohol, completely ordinary

      Or maybe that’s what you were saying and I missed the sarcasm, idk

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      • NotSteve_@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Is it ordinary for them to request the ID number? I’m Canada they just do a quick glance at the birth date on your ID

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• Yoz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Just keep using the temp emails and when they don’t recieve your email , call them up. Their IT support will unblock it after 50-100 calls. Remember consumers have the power.

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• uranibaba@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I tried to report an issue in GitLab. I needed to input my phone number and payment information to create an account. WTF? No thanks, I’ll just not report the issue.

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  • tabular@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    don’t you guys not have phones

    When buying stuff online I find 0101etc works. Public numbers used to work fine for other things but not so much these days. If that doesn’t work I usually don’t give a damn about the service at that point (e.g. ShatGPT) #TeamBots

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    • uranibaba@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I used to have a disposable phone number just for signing up but it was more trouble then it was worth. If the website is shady enough, I go look somewhere else.

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• Syrc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Sick of sites requiring an account, email or phone number.

  Blame bots. The other day we had a post about how 70% of account creation processes on sites are started by bots. Imagine that if you didn’t even need confirmation.

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  • tabular@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What if account creation was local (e.g. Git and keys)?

    If no data needs to be stored then no account is needed. Use the system where there is a unique indentifier based on the password.

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    • Syrc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Use the system where there is a unique indentifier based on the password.

      Never heard of this, how does that work?

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      • tabular@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        A tripcode “is the hashed result of a password that allows one’s identity to be recognized without storing any data about users. Entering a particular password will let one “sign” one’s posts with the tripcode generated from that password. Trying to take another user’s tripcode and compute their password from it (for instance, to make posts that appear to come from a particular person) is somewhat computationally difficult.”

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