Comment on Sony Steals Customers' Purchased Content - Piracy is COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED!

• Guildo@feddit.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Have you played any new games recently?

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  • echo64@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yes, most games are better with patches. Most games do not need patches. And most games come out just fine, the big AAAs that push consoles often have a patch that is worth caring about.

    I played through the most recent yakuza game without a patch recently. Was great.

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    • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Real quick: how high are you?

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      • wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        How high doesnt matter, we need to know what they are high on

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    • Guildo@feddit.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ok, if you think most games don’t need them, then I hope that you’re enjoying bugs. 10/20 years ago games were unfinished, too - but you were able to download and SAVE an update. This is nearly impossible, now.

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      • echo64@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I literally gave you an example of a game I played recently, without patches and zero bugs. Please read the whole thing before leaving a comment.

        The quality of comments on lemmy has really gone downhill the past few months, it’s about reddit quality now and getting worse

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• yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Correct, most indie and AA games ship complete

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• theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Not much of a gamer lately, huh?

  Updates are always an option now, so games are no longer released in a very stable state. And by not very stable, I mean “crashes immediately with X company hardware”, “frame rate drops to 1 frame/s in certain areas”, or “quest line is bugged and incompletable”

  Day one updates generally aren’t optional… With a publisher who values polish like Nintendo? Generally they’re playable, but a bit rough. On average, they’re literally impossible to play through. It’s a real problem in modern gaming

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  • echo64@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I played through the most recent yakuza game without a patch recently. Was great.

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    • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ok, but that’s Yakuza. Their team is great and cares a lot about quality. They’re hardly a representative example, but…

      I just scanned through their update log. A week after launch, they fixed a crash when you deleted a picture from the photo album. Another couple weeks later, they fixed one where the game would crash intermittently. A few weeks later, they fixed a bug where the game wouldn’t boot if you unlocked all the achievements. And it keeps going, more than a year later they fixed a crash during a quest if you have an inconsistent frame rate

      There’s a lot more, but I just scanned through looking for crash fixes - there’re also many issues with graphics that would make the game unplayable with certain setups

      Also, I noticed the first patch is 1.02, making me believe the “unpatched” game actually included the day 1 patch

      Maybe the release version worked for you, but it didn’t work for everyone (or maybe your version included patches you’re unaware of)

      And again, this is an example of a highly polished game - most games are far, far worse

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      • echo64@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Old games had crasher bugs too, and even had new versions :o. 99% of games release in a state where 99% of people will never notice an issue.

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