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Obi@sopuli.xyz 11 months agoI got another layer of radicalisation recently when on vacation, we wanted to go look at magnificent cliffs on the west coast of Ireland, a true natural wonder. The whole fucking place was private property, big sign at the entrance stating so, had to pay for parking and got walking up the hill to go watch the cliffs.
I was furious, this is an awe inspiring piece of nature, how can some fat cat just buy the land and charge people for the privilege of watching nature. Not even like they were offering any service, all there was was a shoddy barrier and some gravel for the path (which it would be fine if it either weren’t there).
Now, if this was managed by a non-profit or the government and they charged something to pay for maintenance, add attractions, or even just to pad out taxes for the local communities, then fine. But this wasn’t it, it was very clearly private as in “some rich banker from London” private.
Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Man, that sucks. Here in Scandinavia we have “right to roam” laws, which means you are allowed to walk around and even camp on any private property, as long as you’re not camping on farmland or too close to a residence.
But beyond that I think any land not being used for farming or housing should be illegal to own privately. Nature belongs to all of us.
KevonLooney@lemm.ee 11 months ago
These “roaming” laws are kind of backwards. I have no problem with people owning large tracts of land. In the US there’s tons of it. You can buy it for like $50 per acre in some places, so it’s accessible to everyone.
No one should be able to just camp on your land. What if you planned a picnic or game or just want to chill out? Why should someone else be able to just set up a tent?
But the US has a great system of National Parks, State Parks, Regional Parks, etc. in all the best places. So great places to camp and fish and hike are always available.
And in some states (CA for example) beach access can’t be restricted by private land. You literally can’t own the beach, even if you live on it. If you have a path to the beach, anyone can walk on it to access the beach. No, they can’t camp on your property but they may be able to on the beach (depending on the park rules). You can literally walk under million dollar homes in Malibu because they’re on the beach but don’t own it.