The data does exist and shows one thing: the death of commercial property and long term leases going to waste.
This is incompatible with capitalism and so it’s working hard to eliminate the incongruence.
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 11 months ago
Amazon monitors and logs and analyzes everything. As a company they are all about data. If they find something that will get the package out the door one half second faster, they’ll spend millions rolling it out everywhere.
If he doesn’t have the data, there is zero chance that means the data doesn’t exist. That means the data paints a very different picture and he has chosen to ignore it.
killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 11 months ago
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 11 months ago
The funny thing is, it’s compatible with capitalism, just people are either afraid of change or invested in the old ways.
Amazon would love a 1% increase in employee productivity, unless it means $500MM worth of lease breaking fees and shareholders grilling them for why they signed those leases in the first place. Or worse they bought the building, and now have to sell it at a big discount.
Everyone’s invested in commercial real estate because it was a cash cow. Now the party’s over, and rather than acknowledge that lots of people (and cities) have a financial incentive to try and keep the party going.
Of course the shitty thing is the big losers in all this are the individual people. The workers in a city lose when property values (and cost of living as a result) are so high they can’t afford rent. The workers in a company lose when they have to waste time and money commuting. But nobody seems to give a shit about the little guy…
EatATaco@lemm.ee 11 months ago
You realize this is a self defeating point, right? If they knew it was more efficient for the workers were more efficient at home they would commit to total WFH.
The logical conclusion from your claims is not that the data contradicts what he wants to be true, but that the data confirms that return to office is better, but for some reason he can’t share that information.
hglman@lemmy.world 11 months ago
No, it does not. It means that they think it’s more profitable for shareholders.
EatATaco@lemm.ee 11 months ago
So the logical conclusion is that it’s better for the share holders for the employees to be less productive?
Enfors@lemm.ee 11 months ago
It’s not that simple. There’s also the issue of paying rent for offices which also feeds into shareholder (although possibly different shareholders) profits, etc. I’m no expert, but I have a feeling this is all very complicated.
Tkpro@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Pretty sure Amazon gets kickbacks from the city of Seattle to keep the offices filled with ppl
EatATaco@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Amazon is massive. Much of their overhead goes to workers, and if the workers were more efficient at home, the city would have to offer a ton of money to make up for the most productivity. So unless you have some convincing evidence otherwise, this is hard to believe.
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 11 months ago
“We don’t see things as they are, we see them as we are.” --Anais Nin
A manager who thinks physical access to employees makes him an effective manager is going to push for that, even if the data says otherwise. We see this in every industry. During pandemic the headline was ‘productivity is flat or increasing with WFH’, now it’s ‘time for RTO’.
EatATaco@lemm.ee 11 months ago
You’re contradicting the top level commenters point that they relentlessly pursue efficiency. Now it’s that the pursue shareholder happiness. I wonder why you didn’t correct them, but me.
It’s almost like we’re throwing explanations against the wall looking for something to stick.
But the simple counter is the simple explanation: we didn’t know a pandemic was coming and couldn’t foresee what no one was able to foresee: a rapid shift to WFH. We held the offices as we didn’t know that WFH could be a long term solution. Now that we are pretty confident our workforce is more productive at home, we’ve decided to cut our office space losses.
No one would bat an eye at this.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
I would put money on this.
Business owners and business leaders are all about efficiency, unless it inhibits their ability to keep you under their boot.