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jdp23@indieweb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• maegul@calckey.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  @jdp23@indieweb.social @tchambers@indieweb.social @fediversereport@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @fediversenews@venera.social
  
  Also, it'd be nice to know something about what comprises all the "others", how many accounts do those instances have, how many of them are there?
  
  Otherwise, it'll be interesting to track this going forward because mastodon.social right now is growing faster than it did between March and 17 May ... the picture could very well look different when comparing May to August.

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  • marcelcosta@bcn.fedi.cat ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    @maegul @tchambers @fediversereport @jdp23 @fediversenews @spreadmastodon
    
    >Also, it’d be nice to know something about what comprises all the “others”, how many accounts do those instances have, how many of them are there?
    
    Others means all the rest! Which means 21089 in May (as shown in the first table).
    
    >Otherwise, it’ll be interesting to track this going forward because mastodon.social right now is growing faster than it did between March and 17 May … the picture could very well look different when comparing May to August.
    
    Totally true! I would like to take monthly pictures (with the help of @spla, which is the author of the API query script).

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    • maegul@calckey.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      @marcelcosta@bcn.fedi.cat @tchambers@indieweb.social @fediversereport@mastodon.social @jdp23@indieweb.social @fediversenews@venera.social @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spla@mastodont.cat
      
      Thanks for the reply!
      
      Any chance others can get their hands on the data set?

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• jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  @Jon Did you seriously expect a #Fediverse analysis to be only about #Mastodon?
  
  #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse. And misskey.io is not Mastodon either; it's the biggest #MissKey instance.
  
  @Tim Chambers It's a pity that only a bunch of instances were analysed that were important in mid-March. The graph would look different if it had taken the recent #CalcKey growth into consideration.

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  • tchambers@indieweb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    @jupiter_rowland @jdp23

    I'd say: it's a start...and I could see from an analysis standpoint how the researcher started with what was doable directly via the #mastodon API. But hopefully to add others as they can.

    Adding the author into this thread: @marcelcosta

    And by definition, I'd think the decentralized story is likely only *better* when you assume the other non-Mastodon Fediverse data... the-federation.info now counts Calckey as 3,500 users, I think FediDB counts them as 8.700 users.

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    • marcelcosta@bcn.fedi.cat ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      @tchambers @jupiter_rowland @jdp23

      I’d say: it’s a start…and I could see from an analysis standpoint how the researcher started with what was doable directly via the #mastodon API. But hopefully to add others as they can.

      Just a comment. @spla queried APIs from servers with many software installed, not just mastodon.

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    • jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      @Tim Chambers @marcelcosta @Jon If either are accurate. All I know is that CalcKey is growing like crazy because it gets a whole lot of exposure and publicity in the Fediverse, and because it's currently the most feature-rich ActivityPub-based project while still having a decent UI.
      
      In this regard, I think the refusal to include Akkoma and CalcKey because Pleroma and MissKey are already there isn't quite smart. Pleroma barely matters because Akkoma outshines it, and MissKey only matters in Japan while CalcKey is booming over here.

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      • mathias@friendica.hellquist.eu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        @jupiter_rowland

        In general I find it noteworthy that pretty much no one is talking about the phenomenal growth Akkoma has had since its launch, which was just over 1 year ago. Comparatively it is really impressive.

        It is twice the size a certain other service that "everyone" talks about (and the same amount of MAU's, which admittedly speaks for the even newer service), and which I also wish well, but given the talk about it I would've expected it to be explosive...not half the amount of users of Akkoma.

        I just find it noteworthy that there isn't a beep regarding Akkoma (unless it comes from me, and people are bored of me raving about it).

        I wonder what would've happened if Akkoma had gotten the same exposure though, given that it has a similar feature set.

        #ImNotBitter 😆

        @tchambers @jdp23 @marcelcosta

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      • jdp23@indieweb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        @jupiter_rowland Is there actually a refusal to count those? Or is it just a combination of measurement artifacts (some don't show users) and that their numbers are too small to show up at this point? Calckey's growth for example is from a tiny starting point.

        @tchambers @marcelcosta

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      • marcelcosta@bcn.fedi.cat ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        @jupiter_rowland @jdp23 @tchambers Hey! That was the point of the analysis in part, to generate debate and tools to monitor.
        
        In theory, absolute accounts of servers include data from many softweres. It's the MAU value that only includes Mastodon servers. I think that both measures show the same trend, so.
        
        And yes, API query must be improved. Some diaspora servers are excluded because of lag in answering. This should be addressed (although the biggest instance is alive but will close soon and doesn't accept new posts).
        
        If there is interest on that, we can plot software distribution across servers and users.

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  • jdp23@indieweb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    @jupiter_rowland No, I didn't expect it to only to be about Mastodon -- in fact the article was very clear that "the active account data refers only to Mastodon servers, as other software don’t necessarily give this information". I was just highlighting that two large instances that disappeared from the stats and neither of them are Mastodon, so that implies something janky going on with the stats.
    @tchambers

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    • jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      @Jon @Tim Chambers Well, as for Joindiaspora, it's currently shutting down by and by as announced. It's only kept online for users to export their account data, but posting is no longer possible.
      
      In general, maybe Diaspora* has been taken out of the equation because it's only connected to a few projects on the fringes of the Fediverse. Diaspora* and Mastodon users can only interact in comment threads on e.g. Friendica or Hubzilla, if at all. Nonetheless, if it has been in the March analysis, it should have been in that from May as well. By the way, diasp.org is very much alive.

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• maegul@calckey.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  @jdp23@indieweb.social @tchambers@indieweb.social @fediversereport@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @fediversenews@venera.social
  
  Yea ... just squinting at the graphs, I think these errors in the graphs mask the growth of mastodon.social. I would bet that when corrected, mastodon.social will have grown in it's share from March to May.

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