“literally nothing”
As if PHPBB forums didn’t have duplicated subforums
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canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Yeah but there’s literally nothing the Fediverse does better than a PHBB forum.
I actually hate the interconnected yet fragmented environment here - there’s absurd amounts of redundancies in communities, resulting in dead spaces; you don’t need 20 different federated servers all with their variations of the same communities, for example sports teams - you have fanaticus.social which is literally specifically for sports, but then every single local instance like midwest.social or lemmy.ca will have duplicate or even triplicate communities. This does nothing but make the whole platform seem big and empty and bereft of users or interactions.
onlinepersona@programming.dev 11 months ago
canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
If they were properly curated, they didn’t. It’s not like an admin from any other instance can delete duplicate communities from other instances.
onlinepersona@programming.dev 11 months ago
Why would the admin of one PHPBB forum “curate” subforums on another PHPBB forum? If you had 10 different PHPBB forums about politics in separate countries, they would all have a “world” subforum (or something similarly named) in each. The only thing happening with the fediverse is that you’re actively seeing what would happen if PHPBB forums were connected.
Corgana@startrek.website 11 months ago
Admins can block them though. Infinite communties in infinite combinations makes a lot more sense when you think about content moderation. Like- imagine if the only politics community Reddit allowed was run by the r/conspircacy mods.
PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social 11 months ago
I remember there being at least 3 separate popular forums just for the Dodge neon.
Kaldo@kbin.social 11 months ago
It's pretty bad for small communities. A new factorio update drops and we have a thread on beehaw, lemmy and kbin gaming communities. Meanwhile the actual factorio community (on either of these servers) also gets a thread but it's mostly empty.
For some communities this makes sense but I feel like it just kills any smaller ones, they just never get a chance to take off properly.
Iapar@feddit.de 11 months ago
Yeah. In my opinion lemmy is just one layer to deep for the federated concept. Everybody should host their own subreddit and not their own reddit.
illi@lemm.ee 11 months ago
That’s partilly more on the people creating duplicates without looking if the community doesn’t exist already.
Granted, the lemmy explorer tool might not be around for too long for people to be easily able to - since someone on you instance needs to known a community exists on other instance and access it for everyone to see it. And some people might just not be aware of it as well.
lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
That’s partilly more on the people creating duplicates without looking if the community doesn’t exist already
Which is not bad; actually and to the contrary, it can be a part of each instance’s cultural identity and it’s a practical way of ensuring the diversity and viability of smaller instances.
Discussing c/soccer in an Argentinian lemmy can be very different than discussing it in hexbear, for example. Not to mention it’s likely most of everyone would’t even be able to participate in hexbear’s. Furthermore, general subjects becoming tied to the largest instances, which statistically have more surface to cover the creation of communities for any subject ever, returns us to the same problem of conversation and community becoming centralized into a “Reddit” instance.
illi@lemm.ee 11 months ago
A good perspective I didn’t have.
Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
Are you talking about lemmyverse.net ? Why should it disappear?
illi@lemm.ee 11 months ago
What I meant is I have no idea how long it exists, so people might not have the luxury of using it to check for existing communities.
Didn’t mean to start a panic with bad wording :)
Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
I see. Hopefully it will stay around, or an equivalent will emerge :)
noobdoomguy8658@feddit.de 11 months ago
I think we’ll collectively figure it out with time and have more specific, yet popular instances, rather than instances trying to be the all-places with communities. Like an instance for memes where communities act as sub-categories or something.
But I maybe wrong, I’m not on oracle or something.
otter@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
I think once a community gets popular, the duplicates die away or act as backups when an instance goes down. That’s generally a good thing because instances have disappeared overnight, and Lemmy is still in development
We had a movies&tv instance that was popular, and then it disappeared overnight so the smaller local instances took over till we got a new popular one
Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
!moviesandtv@lemm.ee for people wondering