I didn’t need to learn about, well actually in English I didn’t learn anything
I found why you think school doesn’t teach things that school definitely teaches.
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aidan@lemmy.world 11 months agohow is math not general? How is understanding characters from a book not general?
The general math and reading skills I learned stopped at 8th grade.
I didn’t need to write a 10 page paper on 3D trig for general math. Nor how to transpose a matrix.
I didn’t need to learn about, well actually in English I didn’t learn anything, we just kept doing the same imagery fan theorizing from 8th grade to graduation.
SCB@lemmy.world 11 months ago
aidan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Learn anything past 8th grade yeah. I took as advanced courses as were offered, but it didn’t teach anything new. Just a hire burden of homework. (That’s largely what IB classes were)
SCB@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yes this means that you failed to apply yourself appropriately, because you failed to learn.
Fun fact, I used to teach high school. I am literally an expert in what you should have learned.
aidan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yes this means that you failed to apply yourself appropriately, because you failed to learn.
Or maybe, just consider, my experience and perception had been different to yours? This is absolutely stupid to reference because I’m an adult and this is highschool, but if I don’t say it you will continue to attack my academic performance to invalidate my argument. My overall ACT score was a 33, as I said 35 in reading. I took all IB courses for the final two years of highschool, with majority As although a couple B’s. You’re saying I failed to learn, that means my teachers and standardized tests completely failed to evaluate learning.
Fun fact, I used to teach high school. I am literally an expert in what you should have learned.
Fun fact, okay? There are thousands of teachers who also disagree. My mom is currently a teacher, my grandma was a magnet teacher and has now written 2 massive(in terms of content and actual weight) books on teaching philosophy. But, sighting “I’m an expert” means nothing on the internet, and especially “my mom and grandma are experts”. But what you clearly must recognize is that I know more about my own experience than you a stranger on the internet does. But if you insist on exports how about John Gatto? Or Ivan Illich?
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
I don’t think that’s what most people learn in terms of math. If you’re not going to college you probably don’t need trig or calc, but a basic understanding of algebra and geometry is useful IMO.
Sounds like a problem with a shitty school or poor teachers, rather than a defect of English lit education in general.
aidan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
A significant share of people finish common core curriculum long before graduating. That’s why AP, IB, and other advanced courses exist.
SCB@lemmy.world 11 months ago
As a former teacher, this is not how educational standards work at all.
aidan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
What did I say about educational standards?
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
I meant Common Core in terms of English, like the basing your interpretations of a text on evidence, etc. Catching students up in basic reading skills is a real problem, but I don’t think that’s an issue with how the curriculum is designed, but rather a problem with the basic economic functions of the country, where parents don’t have time to meaningfully interact with their kids because of job pressures. Starting kids on literacy young is hugely important, but a parent with 3 jobs isn’t going to have time to read to their kids every night.
So there’s pressure on the school to get kids up to grade level without economic support, and there’s pressure on the parents to help their kids without having any time to deal with it… turns out stagnating wages in favor of the millionaire class for 50 years wasn’t the solution after all.
aidan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Is it not also a problem to wastes years of millions of students lives on education of specifics far beyond what they need or want, merely to fill time because they want everyone in highschool until 17 or 18?