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• aidan@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  how is math not general? How is understanding characters from a book not general?

  The general math and reading skills I learned stopped at 8th grade.

  I didn’t need to write a 10 page paper on 3D trig for general math. Nor how to transpose a matrix.

  I didn’t need to learn about, well actually in English I didn’t learn anything, we just kept doing the same imagery fan theorizing from 8th grade to graduation.

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  • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I didn’t need to write a 10 page paper on 3D trig for general math. Nor how to transpose a matrix.

    I don’t think that’s what most people learn in terms of math. If you’re not going to college you probably don’t need trig or calc, but a basic understanding of algebra and geometry is useful IMO.

    we just kept doing the same imagery fan theorizing from 8th grade to graduation.

    Sounds like a problem with a shitty school or poor teachers, rather than a defect of English lit education in general.

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    • aidan@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      All the stuff I mentioned above is written into Common Core standards.

      A significant share of people finish common core curriculum long before graduating. That’s why AP, IB, and other advanced courses exist.

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      • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        A significant share of people finish common core curriculum long before graduating. That’s why AP, IB, and other advanced courses exist.

        As a former teacher, this is not how educational standards work at all.

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      • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I meant Common Core in terms of English, like the basing your interpretations of a text on evidence, etc. Catching students up in basic reading skills is a real problem, but I don’t think that’s an issue with how the curriculum is designed, but rather a problem with the basic economic functions of the country, where parents don’t have time to meaningfully interact with their kids because of job pressures. Starting kids on literacy young is hugely important, but a parent with 3 jobs isn’t going to have time to read to their kids every night.

        So there’s pressure on the school to get kids up to grade level without economic support, and there’s pressure on the parents to help their kids without having any time to deal with it… turns out stagnating wages in favor of the millionaire class for 50 years wasn’t the solution after all.

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  • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I didn’t need to learn about, well actually in English I didn’t learn anything

    I found why you think school doesn’t teach things that school definitely teaches.

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    • aidan@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Learn anything past 8th grade yeah. I took as advanced courses as were offered, but it didn’t teach anything new. Just a hire burden of homework. (That’s largely what IB classes were)

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      • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yes this means that you failed to apply yourself appropriately, because you failed to learn.

        Fun fact, I used to teach high school. I am literally an expert in what you should have learned.

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