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aidan@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Yes this means that you failed to apply yourself appropriately, because you failed to learn.

Or maybe, just consider, my experience and perception had been different to yours? This is absolutely stupid to reference because I’m an adult and this is highschool, but if I don’t say it you will continue to attack my academic performance to invalidate my argument. My overall ACT score was a 33, as I said 35 in reading. I took all IB courses for the final two years of highschool, with majority As although a couple B’s. You’re saying I failed to learn, that means my teachers and standardized tests completely failed to evaluate learning.

Fun fact, I used to teach high school. I am literally an expert in what you should have learned.

Fun fact, okay? There are thousands of teachers who also disagree. My mom is currently a teacher, my grandma was a magnet teacher and has now written 2 massive(in terms of content and actual weight) books on teaching philosophy. But, sighting “I’m an expert” means nothing on the internet, and especially “my mom and grandma are experts”. But what you clearly must recognize is that I know more about my own experience than you a stranger on the internet does. But if you insist on exports how about John Gatto? Or Ivan Illich?

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Rodeo@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
If this is about your personal experiences, then why are you making generalizations about the school system as a whole?

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SCB@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Getting good grades does not mean you internalized the content. A teenager failing to apply themselves is hardly an indictment on that person as an adult.

I’m saying true things, not insulting you. When you were 16 you missed the abstracts of your lessons and assumed that means the lesson wasn’t taught. That’s incorrect. It’s, ultimately, not a huge deal - you’re just wrong about the information not being taught.

If it helps you feel less insulted, I got great grades in HS and went to college on an academic scholarship, I still failed to apply myself and had to relearn several concepts in college. That’s what kids do

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- aidan@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Getting good grades does not mean you internalized the content (ideally, it would, but generalized assessment is this whole thing). A teenager failing to apply themselves is hardly an indictment on that person as an adult.
  
  It might be a bit of an indicator they did apply themselves or at least did learn though.
  
  I’m saying true things, not insulting you. When you were 16 you missed the abstracts of your lessons and assumed that means the lesson wasn’t taught. That’s incorrect. It’s, ultimately, not a huge deal - you’re just wrong about the information not being taught.
  
  Unfortunately you don’t determine the truth, no matter how condescendingly you phrase it. Condescension yes is a form of insulting, as you are trying to deny the experience I lived, based on your own experience, y’know the one that had nothing to do with my own.
  
  But, you failed, because I didn’t say it was never taught. Not once did I say it was never taught. I said it was already taught, and continually repeated.
  
  If it helps you feel less insulted, I got great grades in HS and went to college on an academic scholarship, I still failed to apply myself in several subjects in high school, and had to relearn several concepts in college.
  
  You don’t understand basic empathy if you think that my problem was saying I didn’t apply myself. - See how that feels like an insult? But based on my observation of you in a very limited interaction + a lot of assumptions from me, that’s true. That is what you’re doing, since my personal experience contradicts your preconceived notion you are denying my own experience.
  
  I will literally discuss Russian lit with you all day. I love it.
  
  Did you just hear the name Ivan and assume Russian?
  
  It’s more apt to say that their assessment wasn’t tailored specifically enough to assess your gaps. See my above assessment grumble.
  
  Which would mean it failed to. So why do you assume you after briefly talking to me on the internet are able to?
  
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  - SCB@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    did you just hear the name Ivan and assume Russian?
    
    I thought you were discussing The Death of Ivan Ilyich, a famous Tolstoy work
    
    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_Ivan_Ilyich
    
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