Comment on Recognizing fake news now a required subject in California schools

K1nsey6@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• DacoTaco@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  In my head fake news is propganda, so idk. Detect fake news and youll detect bullshit in propoganda as well i suppose

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• nucleative@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I learned how to identify propaganda in an English class in high school. Propaganda is such as evil sounding word, but Wikipedia calls it “communication that is primarily used to influence or persuade an audience to further an agenda”

  That agenda might be widely accepted as correct - “killing innocent people is not good” - propaganda Or of course it might be horrific - “xyz group of people is less worthy than everyone else and should be exterminated” - also propaganda Or obvious - Posters that exclaim “Ice cream is delicious!” - still propaganda

  It’s crucial to recognize it quickly when material is influencing or persuading you, and to then give it a critical look. A good citizen will always be informed and able to recognize material that attempts to convince them to believe something as true.

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  • ridethisbike@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    THAT’S PROPAGANDA

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    • killeronthecorner@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I mean, it actually is because they left out the rest of the quote:

      which may not be objective and may be selectively presenting facts to encourage a particular synthesis or perception

      It’s also an example of Contextomy, which is sometimes a form of propaganda.

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    • SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Propaganda, a term laden with historical connotations, refers to the systematic dissemination of information to influence or manipulate public opinion. While the word often invokes negative sentiments, it is crucial to approach its understanding with nuance.

      According to Jowett and O’Donnell’s “Propaganda and Persuasion,” propaganda can encompass a spectrum of communication strategies, ranging from overt persuasion to subtle framing of messages. Contrary to its stereotypical association with deception, propaganda, when ethically employed, can serve as a tool for education and mobilization.

      Historically, governments and various entities have utilized propaganda to rally support during times of war, promote public health initiatives, or advocate for social change. Recognizing propaganda’s dual nature allows us to appreciate its potential for positive influence when wielded responsibly.

      It is essential to approach information critically, discerning the intent behind the message and considering multiple perspectives. By doing so, we empower ourselves to engage with propaganda in a manner that promotes informed decision-making and a more nuanced understanding of complex issues.

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    • nucleative@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      😎

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  • daltotron@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    communication that is primarily used to influence or persuade an audience to further an agenda

    I always found this kind of funny. As opposed to, what, communication that’s just for the speaker to assuage their own self-doubt? Is that really even a distinction that’s possible to make, anyways?

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• timewarp@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  But that would mean they could figure out when they are being manipulated by advertisers… and those advertisers are buddies with politicians on both sides of the aisle.

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  • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    they could figure out when they are being manipulated by advertisers

    If it makes you feel any better it almost doesn’t matter how versed humans are in advertising, we can still be affected subliminally.

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  • aidan@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Idk about you, but it school I remember at least a 4 times we had to make persuasive arguments based on advertising techniques.

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  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    buddies with politicians on both sides of the aisle.

    You managed to “both sides” a situation where one of two parties primarily deals in objectively fake news. You made a point, but was it the one you wanted?

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    • timewarp@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I wasn’t very clear. The more you educate someone, the easier it is for them to formulate a reasonable opinion. The more they understand the techniques that can be used to manipulate them, the more they can counter such techniques. However, I could write a news story about how a star guided three magi to Jerusalem approx 2000 years ago where baby Jesus was born by a virgin and schools can’t say that is fake news… hell they’ll be singing carols about it in school choir. And the Democrats will be using tax dollars to pay for people to lead them in prayer about it in Congress, and our currency will claim that we all believe in this holy divine spirit. To kids, a lie is a lie. Are you going to feed them the American Dream, and whitewash American History too before you teach them to recognize fake news?

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• SCB@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  There would be 0 communists if this happened. You sure you want this?

  I mean, I definitely do, but there would be zero communists.

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  • K1nsey6@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Communists are not the ones spreading propaganda. The US is the most propagandized country in the world.

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    • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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      • K1nsey6@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        ‘Alex, I’ll take things that didn’t happen for $1000’

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    • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Lmao I guess we’ll see

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