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Draghetta@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I mean you’re not wrong, but STD is quite objectively garbage. It lacks good writing, good characters and anything that makes it a Star Trek other than using the IP. No philosophy, no exploration, no character arcs. Jason Isaacs is pretty much the only redeeming quality.
Unlike tng, I don’t expect std to be a fan loved classic any time in the next century.
This was uncalled for, and a quick look through your comment history indicates that you're either a person who thrives on taking an opposing viewpoint for the sake of being an oppositional pain, or a troll. I'm going to go with the latter.
Dissonant discourse has value but you're intentionally inflammatory so from me, to you, kindly fuck right off. Try and learn something from this. I will engage you no further.
Guy writes respectful and reasonable personal opinion on discussion board - downvoted. Guy swears at him and tells him he’s a troll, upvoted.
We really are Reddit 2.0.
lmao “reasonable personal opinion” go back to Reddit with that nonsense.
Or maybe I just have different opinions from you on multiple things and you just told a regular guy like you to fuck off because of that. But ok, feel free to disengage.
You wrote “objectively garbage”, though. An opinion by definition is not objective, so I don’t really know what you’re trying to get at here.
I don’t need to be constructive because I’m not talking to the show writers or anybody who is responsible for it. I’m in a community of fans, I thought we could just speak our minds about stuff here and say it sucks when it sucks.
Yes I wrote “objectively” because i didn’t just dislike the show out of personal taste, but because the writing is atrocious (ask anybody who knows anything about writing, it’s trite and shallow) and the Star Trek element just is not there. Call the first one subjective, but you can’t argue with the latter.
There are plenty of things about the show I dislike subjectively, and if you want I can write an essay on it - but that was not the point of my comment. The show has traits that are arguably bad regardless of taste. You may personally like to hear the ramblings of a drunk junkie and find plenty of amusement in doing so, and if that is the case then more power to you. But it doesn’t make it good material.
Edit: changed “STD” to “discovery” as apparently we’re in middle school
Buddy, considering how absolutely childish the moniker “STD” has always been, you’ve got no ground to whine here.
Secondly, at least in middle school, children are taught the meaning of the word, “objectively.”
May be that way for a native English speaker I guess. I have never used it or seen it used as a moniker.
Interesting theory. If you’d never previously seen “Discovery” called STD, what made you choose it?
Maybe the fact that the three words in the title are Star Trek Discovery? It’s not a ridiculous notion.
Stamets@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s DSC. Not STD.
No it is not objectively garbage, that is your opinion.
“Please be positive” “No. Fuck you”.
Draghetta@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Sorry for having come off that way, I’m just a regular guy that doesn’t really like the show for the reasons I said.
STD is Star Trek discovery and I never meant anything with it, didn’t know it was insulting. Don’t know how it “doesn’t make sense”, it’s literally the acronym of the series.
But eh.
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
I have a hard time believing you’re not being willfully obtuse here. Does it really need to be spelled out to you that STD already has a meaning? Sexually Transmitted Disease.
No one acronyms Star Trek: Deep Space Nine to STDS9, Star Trek: The Next Generation to STTNG, Star Wars: The Force Awakens to SWTFA, Star Wars: A New Hope to SWANH, or Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 to CODMW2. You drop the prefix: DS9, TNG, TFA, ANH, MW2.
Alternatively, no one shortens the above to STD, STN, SWA, SWH, CDM.
In verbal conversation, calling it Disco saves you a syllable compared to STD. In text, DSC is the same amount of characters.
There’s no point trying to defend your choice here. You call it STD because you don’t like it and calling it STD made you chuckle.
I really don’t care whether you like it or what you choose to call it. I watched most of season 1 and it just didn’t click for me. I just can’t imagine being the kind of person that would try to say they don’t understand why calling it STD could be taken badly. Wow.
Reminds me of school days, the kids with the sheer audacity to tell the teacher they didn’t bring a cellphone into a test while their pants are blasting out a compressed to hell 30 second loop of a top 10 song as a ringtone.
Draghetta@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’ll be honest here, the whole std thing feels rather immature. Yeah of course I thought of the other meaning for the acronym, didn’t think people would be so childish as to consider that. Let’s be real, every acronym in the world is probably also an acronym for something nasty - but you can’t take that burden on yourself every time you type. If you have a hard time believing i was honest then don’t believe it, but the fact that I’m being accused of something so trivial speaks more of the accuser than it does of me.
I didn’t mean to make a pun at stds, it’s baffling that people would interpret it that way. That show is crappy enough to insult itself, why would anyone bother calling it names. It doesn’t need any help being ridicule.
As for your “other acronyms” point: other series are made of multiple words. TOS, TNG, DS9, they’re all acronyms. Discovery is only one word, how are you supposed to call it? D? DSC is not an acronym, if I were to randomly select letters from the name just to save space I’d just call it by its full name.
I realised STD could mean both and decided to go through with it anyway because I thought we were talking between adults but clearly you made up your mind about me long before giving a damn about who I was.