I’d think everyone doesn’t stop working at the same time, more of a rotation
Comment on The Peasant Life
BottleOfAlkahest@lemmy.world 1 year ago
There’s no way farming was only done 5 sporadic months of the year, that livestock keeping would allow you to just fuck off and not work that frequently, and they often did things like produce parts of their own cloths etc which I would count that much sewing/darning to be work let along the rest of the homesteading requirements…
TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 1 year ago
deft@ttrpg.network 1 year ago
but that would still be considered leisure today.
do you know how many times i leave for work wishing i had time to do a load of wash, clean my bathroom, do the dishes or any other chore?
yeah they had chores and we could debate that is work but they had more leisure time absolutely
yiliu@informis.land 1 year ago
Medieval chores weren’t putting clothes in the washing machine or giving the bathroom a wipe, they were weaving and sewing clothes by hand and then laboriously washing them in the stream, and hauling buckets of shit. Everything was much harder and much less pleasant, and that was how you spent your ‘free time’.
RobertOwnageJunior@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Leave it to modern people to ‘wish they’d live in mediveal times’
jarfil@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The point is they had all of that to do by hand, and still managed to “work for hire” less time than us in a society where over 90% of the stuff is automated.
deft@ttrpg.network 1 year ago
You have a miscommunication of peasant life I believe. They had far more free time for socializing than you’d ever believe and the work they had to do day to day was not this slog you envision.
skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 1 year ago
deft@ttrpg.network 1 year ago
I don’t know why you think modern people have more leisure time?
Peasant work was seasonal first of all, most work wasn’t consistent nor were they afforded wages. Most works resulted in a direct product for the person doing the work, cooking, clothes making, farming.
You don’t understand how much leisure peasants had. Most culture we consider today is from peasant work. Dancing, music, song, joking, and while cooking is work cooking is also a social gathering of work and then eating. Peasants weren’t the working class we are today, we work far more and have far more chores to do. Making clothes by hand was harder but your quality was higher and clothes lasted, they didn’t shop for groceries or deal with car upkeep, they didn’t spend 8 hours at work and an hour traveling both ways.
Peasants were peasants because they didn’t have work to do and generate income with, it was literally mostly chores or leisure.
This is why the black plague was helpful, less people meant workers could make more demands and we see the beginning of a work culture develop.
skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 1 year ago
TheLurker@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What the fuck is a peasant with literally the clothes on their back and nothing else doing with all this “leisure time” anyway?
Ya fucking deluded.
pimento64@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
You’re so right, the consensus of actual historians is meaningless now
jarfil@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Peasants had at least a couple changes of clothes, plus the Sunday and festivities clothes.
Also don’t forget that salmon for dinner didn’t catch itself, you either spend the time, or it’s lobster night again. And better remember to get some flour to the baker to get some bread made for the family, or it’s lobster with month old moldy bread. Better hope the chickens lay some eggs for breakfast.